SIU questions media over Ron Paul

[Autolycos]

[quote="mudder":2xfwif6n]I'm not an american, can I delete it?

I've no idea who you're all talking about and have no opinions on the matter, but it does always amuse me that you americans seem to have a habit of assuming that the whole world revolves around you, your news and your political intrigues. Frankly most of the world couldn't care less.[/quote:2xfwif6n]

It is your right as a sensient carbon based lifeform to concern yourself with your enviornment, therefore conversing with others of like.

Although as you stated yourself that you are not American, then this does not concern you. However by posting your opinion on a thread such as this you are proving that the world does revolve around us, or you wouldnt have been complelled to answer. No-one forced you to read, nor reply to this thread, so anything past that point is drivel. I have no intention to come and negotiate a wheel change on your ox-cart and I dont expect your opinion to matter on this subject.

good day.

[resouh]

*clap for auto*

I don't know what the stats are on U.S. vs. Everyone else is on this site....but....people talk about what is relevant to them and in the U.S. politics are by our right relevant to us. We (supposedly) have the power to sway the government by our decisions and our votes, so we talk about them.

BTW....too damn poor to be party w/ the rich war machine and too damn angry to be a friggin tree hugger.....think I will vote for myself this time.....Vote Resouh President.......

hmmmm
cabinet appointments:
Auto for International Diplomacy
Medios for the Supreme Court
13 for Secretary of Defense
Poolp for Homeland Security
hmmm.....know I'm forgetting some.

Resouh

[alias]

As soon as you all realize that the world does indeed revolve around not only the U.S. but Me specifically then we can all get back to the issue of making ME happy.


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[Autolycos]

*cackle*

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[Corinn]

Alias has my vote as well as all the other creatures in my watery domain. (I'll break their thumbs if they don't show up on election day)

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[quote:gfcr95mk] Resouh posted:

hmmmm
cabinet appointments:
Auto for International Diplomacy
Medios for the Supreme Court
13 for Secretary of Defense
Poolp for Homeland Security
hmmm.....know I'm forgetting some.

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Tap for Secretary of Treasure and Foreign Relations

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[url]http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/083007.html

[quote:335sx690]Sean David Morton prediction-

He characterized Vigilant Shield, a military exercise set to take place Oct. 14 – 20, 2007 as a "false flag operation," and believes that an American city will possibly be attacked during this time, giving the Bush administration an excuse to bomb Iran.[/quote:335sx690]

We'll see...probably one of the 'rumors of war' but still....I'm paranoid a f*ck but something seems to be in the air. A college near where I live was used to day for 'military exercises' to train for terrorist attack. And several news sources are suggesting possible school attacks in the near future.
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Ron is an interesting guy. I agree with a lot of what he says, but I wouldn't vote for him.

I think the 'mainstream' media matters less and less every year. Our society is shifting further and further from mass media. I don't turn on the TV unless I have something I want to watch on the DVR, and I don't record anything from Fox news or CNN etc. Young people, especially males but not as much for females, spend less and less time watching TV. Of course newspaper / magazine subscriptions are down year after year. I'm not unique in this, a lot of people are finding that they can choose where to go for information. When we have the ability to choose, we go to google news and John Stewart.

It's interesting to see polls and hear about who's in the 'lead' day after day, but it will be interesting to see what happens when these polls start to fail. If we actually read the wikipedia articles for each politician and vote based on our own understanding, we might get better results.

[osric]

I think that the reason I look at the personal beliefs of those whom I might vote is that I haven't seen an american president in my lifetime abide simply by their sworn duty to uphold the constitution, therefore I want to know more about how they will most likely act before voting them in (or not as the last two elections have gone for me). I think that Ron Paul would be a good candidate, in my opinion, the best the republicans have to offer. He will most likely not get elected though as most americans don't seem too interested in finding the best person for the job only the one with the most advertising. I don't know I just might have to vote for whoever most closely holds to the ideals of pastafarianism.

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I finally got to see Ron Paul in an interview on Glenn Beck tv program.
While he has some ideas I favor myself, he doesn't seem to carry himself well. I'm somewhat curious on how he is getting attention/support. I live in a town of about 35k people and out of the blue on a cold,rainy night, several people are "campaigning" for him at a busy intersection. Kind of odd really, I am wondering just how many small towns across the south he has people waving his signs and such. Thought it was funny how his campaign took a donation from a member of the KKK, scolded the donater then refused to return the funds. Not sure if that was for PR reasons but it is the kind of press that does damage. I'm def gonna try to learn more about him before making any final decisions. He's kind of like Obama, just not enough meat to really get a good bite on. Any who, out of all those running, Romney and Obama seem to be the only ones I'm wishing I knew more about without all the hub-bub. The rest have way too much baggage. We all know people we can kind of replace with say a Hillary or a Rudy and while on the surface they may seem ok at best, any amount of time actually spent around them shows what an asshole they really are. Damn, ranting and off/on topic again. Where was I? Oh yeah, Vote Bush '08!!

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[mahkra]

Seems like i keep hearing the theme of I like a lot of what RP has to say but I am not going to vote for him. So I am wondering why the hell not? We know for a fact everyone else is a liar and most likely a crook. Why not give a new perspective a chance?

Hell we are going to likely get a carter/bush performance from the next twit anyway.

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I never stated I liked alot of what he had to stay. Each candidate has some ideas that I support. Unfortunately, as with all for them, they all have 1-3 key issues that I find more important that they seem to waver on. Each person has their own priority on what's important. In Ron Paul's case, there are several key issues for me that for the most part, disqualifies any other important positive points he has. One is abolishing the IRS. Not feasible, and stating against the obvious doesn't help. He wants to get rid of tax altogether. Instead,to raise money for government, people will pay a 'use-age fee'.
Hello, a hole by any other name is still a hole.Also, his plan to tuck tail and run from war is a heavy blanket for me. Right or wrong, I'd find it hard to support anyone who'd rather bend over and take it up the arse than fight. What are we? France? As far as everyone else being a liar and crook. You state the obvious. Too bad there isn't a Obama/Romney ticket. Those 2 would be a cinch to win,imho. I'd like to hi-jack this thread and point out 3-4 proven negatives on each candidate but I'll wait till Feb '08. Don't overlook our 4th choice. George Bush!


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[Weasel]

Right now, for better or for worse, I think if Bush ran he'd get in - not on his own merit, but on the appalling alternatives available, much like when his main contender was Kerry (laugh!). Yes some candidates have good points, but their bad points outweigh their good... it's a case of "better the devil you know than the devil you don't" imho, as sad as that may be.

I certainly agree that unconditional surrender in Iraq and the Middle East (or withdrawal as some prefer to phrase it) is a very bad idea. Things are improving there, even some Dems are admitting that much. The long-run cost of immediate withdrawal would FAR exceed any short-run gain.

Additionally, US has to avoid heading down the socialist path it seems to be heading in some ways, particularly if Dems have their way. The law and the US Constitution exist to protect the people, not the individual, but far too many people in the US 'me-generation' think the opposite and expect a free ride, while others pay for them.

Uphold existing federal laws regarding illegal aliens and immigration (and cut it with the PC 'undocumented immigrant' BS), start protecting the borders, and give those jobs to welfare recipients - so sick of seeing ungrateful a55hats demanding handouts and then complaining it's not enough.

Freedom of religion, not from religion - the Christian bashing and Islam dhimmitude has to stop. I'm not religious, but I can see the injustice in this country - a country supposedly founded upon Christianity.

Probably a bit extreme atm because of reading some crap from a New Orleans / Katrina evacuee who is living in better conditions than many working people I know, yet is complaining that "it's pitiful what people give you" (her words), spoken from the comfort of her recently renovated apartment which has been rent-free for the last 2 years courtesy of the tax-paying public, and she states this while sitting in her apartment by her 60 inch flatscreen HDTV - because it's not fair that she cant pay the electricity this month.. WTF? On welfare as well, of course - gawd forbid she get off her 300lb fat a55 and get a job. What's more, there is footage of her making racial slurs and claiming she is treated like a slave.

Another woman in a similar position living in a hotel suite for free for two years refused a job offered by the hotel management, and when the hotel said two years is enough and offered the job, she kicked up a stink and made out it was a racist thing, and the hotel caved - now she has a free hotel suite indefinitely.

**** that, I'd like to slap these people in the face and throw their sorry a55es out on the street. GRRRR.

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[Weasel]

At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about “The Fall of The Athenian Republic” some 2,000 years prior.

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”