Dark Guardian - Invincible?

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Dark Guardian - Invincible?

Postby jezer » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:55 pm

Some of you would have heard me ask about the dark guardian several times. But since this forum seems seems to get more of a broader level of sloth players, please offer me some advice.

This mob pops randomly in the coliseum... He's aggro and evil (Red Aura). He seems to have two annoying procs.

1) Phase Door - A dark guardian slowly phases out of existence, reappearing behind you!
2) Regeneration - Your puny weapons barely scratch a dark guardian, and those wounds regenerate almost instantly.


A demon spawned from the astral planes, the dark guardian has come to seek vengeance on the mortal for its twisted fate. It moves silently and
swiftly towards you, so devoid of sound and form at times that it seems
like a hole has just opened in reality, and wherever it leads is likely not
good. Moaning suddenly, the dark guardian quickens its pace, and raises
shadowy clawed appendages to attack!
A dark guardian has a few scratches.

You attempt to peek at the inventory:
You can't see anything.

Phase door is not a worry to me. In fact it gives me a chance to escape... But his regen proc is a killer. His regen proc fires every second round! Now with -7ac and +17 damage, even landing a deathgrip + a few strikes on this sucker only gets him to big nasties before his regen proc fires and he goes back to excellent. I've been trying to find his secret for absolute months! Here are some of the things I have tried.

Equipping and using coliseum brought weapons from the pit master.
Casting curse on him to try and block his procs.
Casting dispel evil - makes him suffer for his sins - until he regens next round.
Casting protection from evil on myself to no effect.
Casting blind on him but even blinded his proc still fires every second round.
Casting cure serious on him - it burns his flesh but his proc still fires.
Using the Holy Sword of Jake against him - proc still fires.

It would seem some special weapon is required to take him down. Has this weapon been removed from the pit master? There are 5 guantlets and only 4 secret weapons. Anyone got any ideas? If your an immortal and you read this post can you please just confirm he is actually killable and that a 5th weapon to take him down has not been removed.
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Postby Yasik » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:52 am

Jezer, you're not even 2x40 damnit!
If YOU make this mob BNW with your "grip and few strikes", a 5x40 Th-prime will kick the shit outta this 'invincible' fella in regen mode with a needle in 1 stab (unless this mob is no-stab...), so dont call him 'invincible' and dont scare n00bz :)

Maybe you need more +hand_dam eq (power of Deathgrip is in HAND_dam, not regular dam you see in score), as i see you're Mo/Wa/Th/Cl, so no blasting powers you posess - bring a fella with some offencive spells and 2man him etc.
Try to Stun him and hope this will work, as Stun is supposed to prevent mobs from procing.

Everything is easy from the right point of view (c).
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Postby Guinex » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:56 am

A 5x40 can't even get into that portion of the gauntlet, due to level restrictions. Also you have to solo these mobs, so bringing help is not an option....another thing you can't use wands or anything to help blast...
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Postby Yasik » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:02 am

Oh yeah?!
Well okay...
Ask fella Necro make a nightmare and command it that regen-killah stuff.
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Postby jezer » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:40 am

1) the mob is only in the 1x40 or less guantlet.
2) he can't be stunned
3) I have +17 to +20 hand dam in eq. I am no nab, but you don't wanna mess with my grip.
4) he has to be killed in two rounds or his proc kicks in.
5) this is the biggest hardest mob in this gauntlet, massacre through -8 and sanct.


I really, really, really think there is supposed to be a special weapon sold by the pit master to take this mob out. I am familar with the weapons sold there, and I know what mobs to use them on. The dark guardian behaves like these 'special' mobs, but you can't hurt him nor in anyway with the existing weapons sold by the pit master! I still want to hear from other people! don't consider this post answered!
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Postby Weasel » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:42 am

may be that the current spelldam probs are the issue...
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Postby jezer » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:48 am

I don't think damage is the answer... the person who made this 1x40 or less guantlet wouldn't expect a newbie to tackle a dark guardian and kill him in two rounds!

I think the clue is given...

Your puny weapons barely scratch a dark guardian, and those wounds regenerate almost instantly.

I see this as saying, you need a "special" weapon... *wink*

Those who know the gauntlet will know that using the conventional weapons on the snails and ghouls yields a similar kind of "hint."
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Postby Yasik » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:53 am

Try to use Flamestrike (spell) instead of Strike.
Deathgrip also has random damage, try to hit this mob few times and maybe you'll succeed to roll max_dam on grip.
No weapons will help you, monks should grip with bare hands.
Check if there is some gauntlets/bracers/etc +hand_dam of that pit master guy of whatever eq that will add more powers to you...


You sure you wear the best eq available for your levels ?
Maybe you missed something.
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Postby jezer » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:01 am

With all due respect Yasik, I don't think he is meant to be killed in two rounds, you are meant to use a special coliseum weapon on him.

This guantlet is 1x40.

What power/spell known to any class AT 1x40 could out do an opening grip/stab? Remembering if you blast, you only have two rounds to kill him! Two spells! This mob is about as thick as a wight in cata's. Anyone kill a wight in two rounds? at 1x40?

As a side note mob is aggro, and I can't focus in time.

My grip is not weak, Elite wights and ghouls from cata's die in my grips. What more power can a 1x40 have?
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Postby 12345 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:02 am

If I recall Akasha was the one behind the gauntlet. MUDLer if ever there was one. You might try contacting him and asking him to check the place out if you think there's an error.
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Postby blackmore » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:29 am

You say none of the existing weapons work on him. However, the sword is used to kill demons. They will regen to full nearly every round if you do not use the sword. He might even be able to get in 1 regen before the proc from the sword kicks in, I'm not quite sure how that works.

If the sword doesn't work, then I'd say it would have to be a bug that needs to be looked at.
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Postby jezer » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:54 pm

Thanks People! I've sent Akasha an email.

I have used the holy sword of the defenders against the dark guardian often, hoping for some proc to take him out, or stop him from regening. Unfortunately it doesn't happen.
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Postby Akasha2 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:39 pm

I am on my way to work right now, but I will check on this tonight when I get home. And no Yasik, even at 5x40, unless you can splork him, he will regen full the next round.

So cap this discussion :) it sounds like a bug... no use beating the poor dead horse now.

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Postby Blastem » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:55 pm

GASP!!!! Akasha is still alive :shock:
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