Sorry Splork......All the Best, Tuk!

[DSF]

Hi all,

I've been leading quite a lot these few weeks as i love to help pple get xp while getting xp myself...to the point where history xp is killing my overall xp gain, i'm still leading.

With no evil intention of causing pple to be punished (as with the case of Godz), i'm sad to post one event that just happened 1 hour ago. Prior to that, some background info as to why i choose not to allow Tuk to join my group.

Tuk followed my group yesterday and at a mob, i was dying and he had 400+mana....despite my gtell asking him to heal me THRICE...there's no response....needless to say..i died...Proforg raised me after getting mana.

I decided enuff is enuff and i ungrouped him and recalled him....then he "reappeared" and said "WTF! I was blasting!". i ignored him.

Today, he sent me a tell saying this, "Tuk tells you 'i'm sorry for yesterday, was on crack'", of which i ignored....obviously still rather pissed with him.

My question is "Does a LEADER not have the right to stop someone who's not been very attentive during group from joining?"

Then while leading group today, the following transpired:

Tuk tells you 'xps?'

You tell Tuk 'for non botters only'

Tuk tells you 'non botter \'

Tuk tells you 'tell when gateable'

You tell Tuk 'group is closed'

You grouptell: 'i just told tuk that group is closed'

Tuk tells you 'hmm, you said no botting, so here i','

You report 1071/1086 hp. Change: +13. Need: 15. Spells: greater fluidity, sanctuary.

You grouptell: 'wonder what back lash i'll be getting'

Tuk tells you 'and i traveled around continent to join you'

Alaric -- 'he clearly wasn't paying attention so I back you up 100%'

Tuk tells you 'so now you are closed?'

You tell Tuk 'sorry to make u do that'

tg elder
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Alaric -- 'I said BUD LIGHT! *Sigh* SANC is UP, Let's Roll !!! '
You grouptell: 'target elder'

You grouptell: 'target elder'

You yell 'VICTORY ART THEE!!!!!!'

Holding Area
Exits: North East South West
The elder wanders about the city wearing threadbare clothing.
A pale green necroid mercenary in full armor is on patrol.

1086hp 128ma 321mv -10.4AC +11 +7 +90 +47(indoors Dark Chasm 776,183,294XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Roku joins in the war-cry!
Kaylee joins in the war-cry!
Alaric joins in the war-cry!
Jabba joins in the war-cry!
Arkresh joins in the war-cry!
Shadeheart joins in the war-cry!

web
ofa
Ok.
An elder citizen is enmeshed in thick webs!
An elder citizen growls at you and attacks!
An elder citizen hates your guts!
You've got a great feeling about this fight!
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You report 1156/1086 hp. Change: +70. Need: 0. Spells: greater fluidity, sanctuary.

An elder citizen briefly reveals a red aura!

A GLOWING PORTAL OPENS HERE FOR YOU!

You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
Your riposte viciously massacres an elder citizen.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen charges and bashes into you!
You stumble but regain your balance.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!

[color=red:1pn39mjr]Tuk has materialized here.[/color:1pn39mjr]A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.

entren
Rynquald -- 'here we go'

[color=red:1pn39mjr]Tuk grabs you, tossing you to the east![/color:1pn39mjr]Cell 1 Minimum

Exits: West
A slice of a melted mass is lying on the ground. [2]
A steaming pile of intestines lies puddled on the floor here.
The wandering merchant hobbles around looking for anything to sell.

Ouch, hard landing!

You report 929/1086 hp. Change: -154. Need: 157. Spells: greater fluidity, sanctuary.

w
Maybe you should get on your feet first?
You report 935/1086 hp. Change: +6. Need: 151. Spells: sanctuary, greater fluidity.

You are already awake...

You stand up.

tgt tuk


Holding Area
Exits: North East South West
AN OPEN PORTAL IS HERE!
Rynquald ~Dragonsworn~ is standing here. [5](Faint Red Aura)
Arkresh . is here, fighting an elder citizen(Brilliant Blue Aura)
Shadeheart the Smiling Rogue is here, fighting an elder citizen(Brilliant Blue Aura)
Alaric the Barbarian King [Legends] is here, fighting an elder citizen(Brilliant Blue Aura)
Alaric glows with a bright light!
Alaric has a steady green aura.
Jabba 2 shocking good times with Ds. is lying here, dead.(Faint Blue Aura)
Roku ~Sleeping Forest~ is standing here.
Roku has a steady red aura.
Roku is surrounded by a shield of thorns.
Kaylee ... is here, fighting an elder citizen
Kaylee has a strong red aura.
An elder citizen is here, fighting Alaric
An elder citizen is covered in sticky webs!
A necroid mercenary is here, fighting Alaric

943hp 131ma 328mv -10.4AC +11 +7 +90 +47(indoors Dark Chasm 776,194,403XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Alaric skillfully parries the attack of an elder citizen.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
An elder citizen misses Alaric with his hit.
An elder citizen misses Alaric with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
A necroid mercenary's hit bounces off your heavy armor.
Alaric slashes an elder citizen extremely hard.
Alaric massacres an elder citizen to small fragments with his slash.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
Alaric looks in amazement as the elder jumps high into the air and slams into him !
An elder citizen attempts to bash you, but you nimbly step out of the way.
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!


You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...

You report 950/1086 hp. Change: +7. Need: 136. Spells: none.

An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
Alaric skillfully parries the attack of an elder citizen.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
You skillfully parry the attack of A necroid mercenary.
A necroid mercenary hates your guts!
Your riposte viciously massacres A necroid mercenary.
Alaric massacres an elder citizen to small fragments with his slash.
You massacre A necroid mercenary to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre A necroid mercenary to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen attempts to bash Alaric, who nimbly steps out of the way.
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
You report 817/1086 hp. Change: -133. Need: 269. Spells: none.

[color=red:1pn39mjr][size=200:1pn39mjr]A nightmare gallops up to Tuk and whinnies.[/size:1pn39mjr][/color:1pn39mjr]
toss tuk n
You grab Tuk and throw him to the north!

You report 823/1086 hp. Change: +6. Need: 263. Spells: none.

823hp 137ma 301mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,222,098XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Arkresh pierces A necroid mercenary.
You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
Your riposte viciously massacres an elder citizen.
An elder citizen misses Alaric with his hit.
An elder citizen misses Alaric with his hit.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's beat.
A necroid mercenary viciously massacres Arkresh with his hit.
A necroid mercenary brutally massacres Arkresh with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses Arkresh with his beat.
A necroid mercenary viciously massacres Arkresh with his hit.
Alaric massacres an elder citizen to small fragments with his slash.
Arkresh misses A necroid mercenary with his pierce.
You massacre A necroid mercenary to small fragments with your slash.
Alaric looks in amazement as the elder jumps high into the air and slams into him !
An elder citizen charges and bashes into Alaric.
Alaric staggers.
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
You report 699/1086 hp. Change: -124. Need: 387. Spells: none.

Banzai! To the rescue...
You report 705/1086 hp. Change: +6. Need: 381. Spells: none.

stone

You lost your concentration!

707hp 133ma 304mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,230,952XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Shadeheart misses A necroid mercenary with his pierce.
You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
Your riposte viciously massacres an elder citizen.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's beat.
A necroid mercenary misses Shadeheart with his beat.
A necroid mercenary brutally massacres Shadeheart with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses Shadeheart with his hit.
Shadeheart pierces A necroid mercenary hard.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen charges and bashes into you!
You stumble but regain your balance.
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
You report 464/1086 hp. Change: -241. Need: 622. Spells: none.

464hp 134ma 305mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,239,098XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
stone
An elder citizen sees Shadeheart, and ATTACKS!


A nightmare gallops off.
An elder citizen really needs a good bath! Phew!
SEEK SHELTER AT ONCE! Arkresh has begun to sing.

668hp 136ma 307mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,239,098XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's hit.
Shadeheart is dead! R.I.P.
You skillfully parry the attack of A necroid mercenary.
Your riposte viciously massacres A necroid mercenary.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
You are viciously massacred by A necroid mercenary's hit.
Kaylee slices an elder citizen very hard.
You massacre A necroid mercenary to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen makes a nice ballet step which plants a foot a mile above Kaylee's head.
A necroid mercenary makes a nice ballet step which plants a foot a mile above your head.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
You report 461/1086 hp. Change: -204. Need: 625. Spells: none.


res shade
The cleansing fires of healing fill your body!
Alaric -- 'did he just toss you?'
You report 654/1086 hp. Change: +193. Need: 432. Spells: none.


660hp 140ma 311mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,242,419XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
The cleansing fires of healing fill your body!
You report 865/1086 hp. Change: +205. Need: 221. Spells: none.

Rynquald -- 'he did'
You grouptell: 'yes he did'

667hp 144ma 316mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +77 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,250,239XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Arkresh reports 36/294 hp. Need: 258. 47/228 ma. 158/158 mv.
Banzai! To the rescue...

667hp 144ma 316mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,250,239XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
But nobody is fighting him?

669hp 145ma 316mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,250,239XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
But nobody is fighting him?

669hp 145ma 316mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,250,239XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Nobody here by that name.
You report 671/1086 hp. Change: +6. Need: 415. Spells: none.

671hp 145ma 317mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,250,239XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
There are no loyal subjects of yours here!

671hp 145ma 317mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,250,239XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
hd
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
Your riposte viciously massacres an elder citizen.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen charges and bashes into you!
You stumble but regain your balance.
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
An elder citizen sees Arkresh, and ATTACKS!
You report 665/1086 hp. Change: -6. Need: 421. Spells: none.

res ark
You report 671/1086 hp. Change: +6. Need: 415. Spells: none.

Alaric -- 'he's done for now '

Banzai! To the rescue...

673hp 150ma 322mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +77 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,256,839XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
Your riposte viciously massacres an elder citizen.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
You skillfully parry the attack of A necroid mercenary.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen jumps into the air and slams into you !
An elder citizen attempts to bash you, but you nimbly step out of the way.
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
But nobody is fighting him?
You report 380/1086 hp. Change: -291. Need: 706. Spells: none.

An elder citizen sees Alaric, and ATTACKS!
Alaric -- 'splork is gonna love this'

385hp 151ma 323mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,265,601XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
You feel better!
Banzai! To the rescue...
You report 433/1086 hp. Change: +53. Need: 653. Spells: none.

435hp 153ma 325mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,265,601XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his beat.
You skillfully parry the attack of A necroid mercenary.
Your riposte viciously massacres A necroid mercenary.
You are brutally massacred by A necroid mercenary's beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen charges and bashes into you!
You stagger but manage to keep your feet.
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
You report 363/1086 hp. Change: -70. Need: 723. Spells: none.

hd
Banzai! To the rescue...
You report 371/1086 hp. Change: +8. Need: 715. Spells: none.

371hp 156ma 329mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,271,145XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
Your riposte viciously massacres an elder citizen.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his beat.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
You skillfully parry the attack of A necroid mercenary.
Your riposte viciously massacres A necroid mercenary.
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
You are viciously massacred by A necroid mercenary's hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre an elder citizen to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen charges and bashes into you!
You are knocked off your feet!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
A necroid mercenary heroically rescues an elder citizen.
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
You report 163/1086 hp. Change: -208. Need: 923. Spells: none.

163hp 156ma 329mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,278,457XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
hd
An elder citizen remembers you, and ATTACKS!
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!

165hp 157ma 329mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,278,457XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
The skin around Alaric begins to tighten, as it turns to stone.
You report 169/1086 hp. Change: +6. Need: 917. Spells: none.

169hp 159ma 329mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,278,457XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
hd
hd
You are already awake...

171hp 159ma 329mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,278,457XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
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An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
Your riposte viciously massacres an elder citizen.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's beat.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
A necroid mercenary misses you with his beat.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You skillfully parry the attack of A necroid mercenary.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You massacre A necroid mercenary to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen misses a kick at your groin, you breathe lighter now.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You're hit in solar plexus, wow, this is breathtaking!!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
Rynquald looks at an elder citizen.

18hp 160ma 309mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,282,723XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Ok.
The cleansing fires of healing fill your body!
You report 213/1086 hp. Change: +195. Need: 873. Spells: none.

213hp 111ma 309mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +77 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,290,523XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
Alaric -- 'defied'


@@
Ok.
The cleansing fires of healing fill your body!
You report 418/1086 hp. Change: +205. Need: 668. Spells: none.


419hp 65ma 292mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,298,483XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
You skillfully parry the attack of an elder citizen.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
An elder citizen misses you with his beat.
You are viciously massacred by A necroid mercenary's hit.
You are brutally massacred by A necroid mercenary's beat.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You are brutally massacred by A necroid mercenary's beat.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
A necroid mercenary misses you with his hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You massacre A necroid mercenary to small fragments with your slash.
You massacre A necroid mercenary to small fragments with your slash.
An elder citizen misses a kick at your groin, you breathe lighter now.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
A necroid mercenary wipes his boots in your face.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
Your group's front line is about to collapse, watch out!
You report 69/1086 hp. Change: -349. Need: 1017. Spells: none.

69hp 65ma 292mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,299,693XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)

69hp 65ma 292mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,299,693XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)

Ok.
The cleansing fires of healing fill your body!
You report 263/1086 hp. Change: +194. Need: 823. Spells: none.

You feel better!
You report 299/1086 hp. Change: +36. Need: 787. Spells: none.



302hp 18ma 294mv -7.4AC +11 +7 +123 +44(indoors Dark Chasm 776,307,293XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
An elder citizen misses you with his hit.
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You are viciously massacred by an elder citizen's hit.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You have been KILLED!!

-26hp 19ma 295mv -3.4AC +11 +7 +0 +0(indoors Dark Chasm 776,307,293XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)

You can't see anything but stars!

gp
Group 'A & A only' is locked.
It's led by Dsfren and consists of:
(Dead) Dsfren [Wa:4.35 -26hp 19ma 295mv] ---
(Dead) Shadeheart [Th:0.20 -100hp 88ma 179mv] ---
(Dead) Jabba [Ne:0.20 -103hp 83ma 125mv] ---
(Dead) Kaylee [Ma:1.25 -65hp 28ma 171mv] mage 4

Rynquald [Ma:1.39 382hp 270ma 159mv] ---
Arkresh [Ne:0.20 110hp 45ma 158mv] ---
Alaric [Wa:0.36 350hp 109ma 167mv] rerolls
Roku [Dr:3.25 672hp 97ma 210mv] ---

-26hp 19ma 295mv -3.4AC +11 +7 +0 +0(overcast Aisholm Town 776,307,293XP 1,373,365GOLD +9ALG)
whe
You are in Aisholm Town. Also in this area are:
Name - Location
-----------------------------------------
Roku - The Wide Gate
Kaylee - The Wide Gate
Alaric - The Wide Gate
Jabba - The Wide Gate
Arkresh - The Wide Gate
Shadeheart - The Wide Gate
Rynquald - The Wide Gate
Dsfren - The Wide Gate

Roku -- ': were all here. ill start raising.'

You feel an intense burning pain!
Kaylee stops following you.
Roku stops following you.
Jabba stops following you.
Alaric stops following you.
Shadeheart stops following you.
Arkresh stops following you.
Rynquald stops following you.
Dsfren has left this channel: ~DS~.
Ok... all channels turned off.


Losing xp is...not a big deal. But causing death to half of my group is a big deal to me. So....Sorry Splork...to trouble u again...but i seriously think this act by Tuk is childish and uncalled for. Can you kindly please look into this matter pls?

Thanks and regards.

Simon

[jezer]

I'm glad this rubbish appears on the crier even if it is the pot calling the kettle black.

[b:17y9dy1w][i:17y9dy1w]To much appeasement of greed and immaturity goes on in game. Lets see some punishment as deterrents. No leader wants to appear to be a jerk because he had to single out a player to deal with petty issues, but you get sick of putting up with it.
[/i:17y9dy1w]
[/b:17y9dy1w]It's obvious players need to be encouraged to take some time out when this stuff happens. I think temporary lock out is a good punishment, maybe they can get there kit together in real life during that time. Reducing xp or levels can only make the problems worse as they strive to get it back.

[Mosaix]

Looks like Tuk, tossed you, dispelled you, and caused your death and others in a group. So he pkilled you, and part of the group.

Bye bye Tuk.

[*Splork*]

Tuk is passworded for now until we decide how to handle the situation. He has been involved in way too many incidents similar to this, in my opinion.

Remember though, he is extremely passionate about the game and helps us in quite a few ways also. Sometimes our actions get the best of us, me included.

Splork

[Thraxas]

Sometimes punishments are needed in any game ... think of your favorite sport and theres going to be a penalty or punishment for a foul. You never find a sport where the ref says [i:pkk6xwbp]'well if I give him a penalty he might stop playing'[/i:pkk6xwbp] ... foul = penalty.

This is a clear foul, not only that but it was intended to be a foul.

I think it would be helpful to the whole mud not only for such a foul to be punished but for it to be seen to be punished, unless justice is seen to be done the deterrent effect is gretly reduced. There is a reason courtcases are public events in most countries.

Whether the punishment is pwipe, level loss, equipment destruction or a temp account lock is up to the imms, but I think whatever it is should be announced. Give us all something to remember next time we consider sleeping a player, dispelling them, webbing them, attacking their pets, or ordering your pets to attack them, tossing them or pushing them into an aggro/proc room.

T

[DSF]

Jezer,

The key reason why i seldom post on crier is becoz of pple like you. Who thinks they know it all. But i respect that pple like you craves for freedom of speech. As such, i'm just gonna say, if you think you're that good, go lead some and show that you're good. Dun come blabber in my face saying "Pot Calling the Kettle Black".

I've gained all my levels to be up there from tons of leading....show me what you are capable of and i'll give you the due respect.

P.S, after this saga, i've learn to reject pple who wants to join my group. Although my recent joy and drive has been trying to get pple as much xp as possible. I've been leading for 6-10 hours recently on a daily basis. So, till u can do that, dun waste my time telling me off.

Thanks

[quote="jezer":1dpftc36]I'm glad this rubbish appears on the crier even if it is the pot calling the kettle black.

[b:1dpftc36][i:1dpftc36]To much appeasement of greed and immaturity goes on in game. Lets see some punishment as deterrents. No leader wants to appear to be a jerk because he had to single out a player to deal with petty issues, but you get sick of putting up with it.
[/i:1dpftc36]
[/b:1dpftc36]It's obvious players need to be encouraged to take some time out when this stuff happens. I think temporary lock out is a good punishment, maybe they can get there kit together in real life during that time. Reducing xp or levels can only make the problems worse as they strive to get it back.[/quote:1dpftc36]

[Toxis]

I know Dsfren was upset when he ungrouped Tuk and then decided to disband group because of Tuk's persistant whining and trying to come back to group, but man was it funny and you might see why...

Dsfren repeatedly kept saying "Tuk heal me... Tuk heal.. Tuk, heal me now... Tuk heal me"

Dsfren morted which caused the mob to attack someone else killing them.

Dsfren ungrouped Tuk.

Tuk gates in and tells Dsfren "WTH, I was blasting!"

Come on, that's funny! ~


By the way, people have come to the point where they expect a leader to do certain things yet they don't hardly lead themselves. Having someone lead you around is a luxury, one that I am very thankful of when that happens. I try to pay attention, but in a game like this it can be easy to look away from screen for something else or get bored. It can be forgiven, just don't be so hard on a leader when they get upset because people don't pay attention. The leader's frustration isn't 100% aimed at you most the time when something like this occurs. It's normally something that builds up for days or weeks until finally leader just has enough and says I've had it.

-Toxis

[Mace]

Definite foul. Even if you have just cause for messing with someone, involving group members is bad form. Also, if a group leader doesn't want you for whatever reason, tough.

As far as the group CF goes, I'm less sure there. ~8 rounds went by with no one re-lighting Dsfren, and the group had attacked a citizen with a mercenary there. My unrequested verdict is that Tuk only contributed 20% to the deaths.

[Thraxas]

[quote="Mace":3f7t90vq]My unrequested verdict is that Tuk only contributed 20% to the deaths. [/quote:3f7t90vq]

Think you miss the point ... he intended to mess the group up, he intended to cause death, he acted on that intention, deaths ensued.
That there were other factors at play is irrelevant all that means is that he's incompetant as well for not being able to cause deaths without help ... if I was intend to cause deaths and act on it be assured that deaths would ensue and I would 100% responsible ... I would also expect to be pwiped ...

T

[reboog]

mass hysteria
entire group cf'd, but...
thrax does it better!

[Tuck]

Well, I’m sorry for CF, didn’t meant to wipe half of group, even if everyone was raised.
Anyways, DS acts absolutely like Godz closing group to someone.
Zomg teh drama

[Rynquald]

It's probably true that we could have avoided the CF if we had remained focused on the mob. But when you're suddenly under attack from a PC, you tend to pay them more attention than whatever you were fighting a moment ago.

There's no real way you can attack a group in combat and then believably claim that you didn't intend to kill them.

[jezer]

[quote="DSF":1dkaydfh]Jezer[/quote:1dkaydfh]

Your known for being afk in groups Ds, we know you don't pk groups and what not.

I'm not saying you go afk in groups and bot because your pure evil, I suspect you play at work and hide the window from your boss occasionally or try and do small pieces of work. Just the other month you got transfered for hiding out at the wolf pack leader and going afk for hours in murkwood - knowing full well your ac could survive the repop and you could get a good poprate on the tokens... these things we know about you.

It's not a full scale personal attack, it's just an observation I believe is the truth... and you know from my island eq groups 6 months ago, because I took you to task over it, as well as lyme stab in s3.

You can slam Tuk for ruining your group, but talking about botting is a bit rich from you. Your not ALWAYS paying full attention when your not leading, clearly.

[DSF]

Thanks for your comments.

Action speaks louder than words. I have my group of followers....hope u have yrs.




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[Gimlet]

LOL

the 2 biggest botters/afkers battling it out for mud supremacy...funny stuff

having a group of followers means squat. I bet ppl would follow starman for BH xp if he lead