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Conspiracy or State's preparing for the worst?

Postby Medios » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:13 pm

I found this very interesting. All these states are sending legislation to committee to actively declare sovereignty under the 10th Amendment to the Constitution. I read most of them and put some for you to see. This is starting to get scary honestly I have never heard about this.

Missouri
http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx...ills/HR212.HTM

HR 212 Declares Missouri's sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment and urges the United States Congress to reject the passage of the federal Freedom of Choice Act which prohibits regulations on abortion

Washington bill sent to committee
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...overeignty.pdf

TO THE HONORABLE BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND
2 TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE AND THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF
3 REPRESENTATIVES, AND TO THE SENATE AND HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
4 UNITED STATES, IN CONGRESS ASSEMBLED, AND TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE
5 SENATE AND SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF EACH STATE'S
6 LEGISLATURE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
7 We, your Memorialists, the Senate and House of Representatives of
8 the State of Washington, in legislative session assembled, respectfully
9 represent and petition as follows:
10 WHEREAS, The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United
11 States specifically provides that, "The powers not delegated to the
12 United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States,
13 are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and
14 WHEREAS, The Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal
15 power as being those powers specifically granted to it by the
16 Constitution of the United States and no more; and
17 WHEREAS, Federalism is the constitutional division of powers
18 between the national and state governments and is widely regarded as
19 one of America's most valuable contributions to political science...

Montana
http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm

Oklahoma
http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/We...atus/main.html
search for HJR-1003 in the 'Measure Number' entry

Michigan
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(s0k...aspx?page=home

New Hampshire
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...9/HCR0006.html

Arizona
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument....s/hcr2024p.htm
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Postby Mosaix » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:16 pm

Why you insist on posting politics to a text game website is equally as interesting and scary.

Honestly....
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Postby Tap » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:10 am

Actually, I'm glad it was posted..I'm aware of alot of things and try it follow what I can and sort out what I can..that is useful info and I'm going to research it and pass it along. Main thing I've heard is regarding Texas but that is Firebrand's backyard and she'd know more on it that what I could post. What's scary is how people are chomping at the bit to close down all forms of information in their lust for power (read:Osama and Nancy Pelosi,Harry Reed). They don't want you to know the slippery slope they are working.


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Postby Tap » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:20 am

bad links
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Postby Poggle » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:14 pm

I think this was the article you read:

http://www.infowars.com/increasing-numb ... vereignty/

The links in the article work.

I'm rather surprised that this kind of stuff is happening now, rather than when the patriot act was passed.
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Postby Medios » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:55 pm

Strange about the links, I checked the all out before I posted. Some of them do work, ill check out the rest later.

Are there rules for this message board? Do I have to stay on the topic of muds here? Is the only thing I am allowed to post is rants and whining about classos or eq?

Or am I free to talk about what I want when I want. Strangely enough at the current point in history Democrats are in a huge push to shut everyone up. Now coming from the party that supports freedom of speech and the common man I find it interesting that they want to shut down any real discussion of impropriety in politics. Honestly Broc the real question is why do you post here? You routinely complain about the game and don't even log in. So the real question is what are you doing here? Oh wait maybe trying to stifle political discussion?

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Postby Medios » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:05 pm

Why did my links get cut with with ... when i pasted them directly from the url. Hell with it, happy slavery.
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Postby Medios » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:47 pm

Ahha I figured it out. I copy and pasted this from my other msg board, that is why my links got hosed. Thanks to Poggle for posting an article with working links. BTW I did not read this on Alex Jones's website. His material gets attacked too much for being conspiracy minded. That was the reason I posted the direct state legislature urls that I found in a video about the matter.

I just read part of the stimulus bills that states the government will means test your medical treatments against your average life span. If your treatment is above a certain ratio you will be denied medicine. This will effectively end govt subsidies of new medicines, which in my mind is a very good thing. However anyone on govt run health care will be left to die if they contract a serious illness.

Now I only thought that the evil corporations made decisions that valued human life against monetary cost. For example the Ford Pinto. It was determined that the amount of money to fix the Pinto would be more than the amount paid out in wrongful death lawsuits against Ford. Now it seems that the govt will be in the business of telling you what treatments you receive (if any) and placing a fiat monetary value on your life. So in the future what would stop the govt from taking DNA and determining whether or not your genes would be strong enough to live in their health care system. What if your family has a strong recurrence of heart disease or cancer? Will the govt be able to tell you that you cannot procreate because your child might be a possible burden on the health care system? I know you think I am going too far, but what about China? They already have death squads for forced abortions of more than one child per family. Why not go farther and say you peasants are not fit to reproduce. Only the Bushs, Obamas, Pelosis and Reeds of the world will be seen fit to have offspring.

I remember before the election when I made a prediction that we would all be sorry for our love affair with Obama and that I would be laughing in the end when he self-destructs. Well the time is here and I am not laughing. In fact I am concerned that within 10 years I will be working for 1/2 as much as I currently do. Inflationary spending didn't work during The Great Depression and it won't work now.

You know what got us out of the Depression?

War, huh, good god ya'll what it is good for?

Economies.
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Postby jezer » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:41 pm

I read an interesting thing put forward by someone last night.

They predicted America will eventually go bankrupt, (partly on the back of the other countries defaulting on the money they owe... Brazil/Mexico/Argentina) The banks will declare a bank holiday and freeze people from withdrawing their money in panic. As a result riots and mass looting will take place all over America, as people take out there frustration over whats transpired and there inability to withdraw funds.

We recently had the worst bush fires in Australia's history last week. 181 people (still 80 missing) died in firestorms moving as fast as cars up tinder dry valleys, scorched in the recent multiple days of weather in the low 40's (Cecilius.) I can't help but think in the same way... the "weather" at the moment is drying out the economy... just waiting for that one event that's going to induce some of the worst scene's we have ever seen.
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Postby Rynquald » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:58 pm

To me it seems like a good thing that the states are asserting their sovereignty. It implies that they won't lie down as the federal government continues to tighten its grip.

Even the almost worst case future scenario, the peaceful or semi-peaceful collapse of the United States into a large group of individual nations, could be the one of the best things that could happen for the people of the States, and the world as a whole.

It's debatable whether even with a civil war it would be worth it in the long run. Probably, as long as the no one got desperate enough to drag out the nukes/bio/chem, or turn the US into one big minefield.
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Postby Weasel » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:52 pm

[quote="jezer":300z6z6d]I read an interesting thing put forward by someone last night.

They predicted America will eventually go bankrupt, (partly on the back of the other countries defaulting on the money they owe... Brazil/Mexico/Argentina) The banks will declare a bank holiday and freeze people from withdrawing their money in panic. As a result riots and mass looting will take place all over America, as people take out there frustration over whats transpired and there inability to withdraw funds.

We recently had the worst bush fires in Australia's history last week. 181 people (still 80 missing) died in firestorms moving as fast as cars up tinder dry valleys, scorched in the recent multiple days of weather in the low 40's (Cecilius.) I can't help but think in the same way... the "weather" at the moment is drying out the economy... just waiting for that one event that's going to induce some of the worst scene's we have ever seen.[/quote:300z6z6d]

It's coming. Before they even got elected, Biden put his foot in his mouth (as usual) and made a mysterious warning that, once elected, they were going to do something that Americans wont like at all.. he then realized what he said and refused to elaborate. The media glossed it over, as usual. I have not forgotten that ominous warning, and nor have many others. It's coming.

RIP to the bushfire victims, and condolences to their friends and family.
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Postby Tap » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:54 pm

[url:18z6nx62]http://www.infowars.com[/url:18z6nx62]

or if that's a bit much to chew on at once...I like this guy

[url:18z6nx62]http://www.glennbeck.com[/url:18z6nx62]
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Postby Poggle » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:57 pm

War did indeed end the great depression in the US.

But not particularly because of the military actions of the US.

The US became an international arms dealer, and many of our big companies (like US steel and the rockefeller oil cartel), began large amounts of raw materials to countries who needed them to produce weapons.

The US at that time was similar to China now, large amount of resources, highly export dependent.

In addition, as the revenues arrived from this sudden international trade explosion, the US began making hefty loans to foreign nations, cementing our 20th century role as the Top Dog in terms of economy.

So yes, war helped us last time, but this time things are very different.
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Postby *juggleblood* » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:40 am

The sky is falling :!:
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Postby reboog » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:34 am

Guys, I know you think we're the bad guys in Iraq, but terrorism really has to be stopped, and I think we should all get behind that.
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