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[Melanthe]

Thanks for the flame RR. LOL. Calm down. All of my recent xp is from *grouping*, as I stated, regardless of what you posted just now. Look at the Top 20 for the next week and you'll see. (Or heck why don't you finger me when I am online and see for yourself.)

Guinex, I could of xp'd more, but I've spent an awful lot of time cycling eq, and drachma mobs (1006 drachma so far yay!) Snicker.

I can't help it if I know the game and how to xp fast shrug. And I play too much. Has nothing to do with my classo. I'll get *any* prime class to this lvl in the same amount of time.

Lol,
Melanthe

[Roadrunr]

[quote="Guinex":1ni817t0]RR sad as this may sound even Fyrstenheart xped faster than that, ahem he was a prime warrior. I don't really think melanthe's xp numbers for a week are that impressive for someone that is online for 18 hours a day.

Im not trying to back melanthe or anything, but give me a break.

Oh yea, fyrstenheart didn't even realise his pets worth worth using til he was almost 4x40.[/quote:1ni817t0]

I suppose you may be right, my view may be skewed since I'm rarely on for more than 2-3 hours a night if that. My point wasnt so much the amount of xp but rather the fact that 85% of it was solo when Melanthe claimed to gain most of his/her xp recently from groups.


[quote="Melanthe":1ni817t0]Thanks for the flame RR. LOL. Calm down. All of my recent xp is from *grouping*, as I stated, regardless of what you posted just now. Look at the Top 20 for the next week and you'll see. (Or heck why don't you finger me when I am online and see for yourself.)

Guinex, I could of xp'd more, but I've spent an awful lot of time cycling eq, and drachma mobs (1006 drachma so far yay!) Snicker.

I can't help it if I know the game and how to xp fast shrug. And I play too much. Has nothing to do with my classo. I'll get *any* prime class to this lvl in the same amount of time.

Lol,
Melanthe[/quote:1ni817t0]

wow, and modest too. It DOES have something to to with classo. Try a Cleric-Mage-Warrior-Bard and see if you can solo from 1x40 to 3x40 in 2 weeks.

Apparently recently means 3-4 days to you, to me it means 3-4 weeks

[Avatar]

Wow, for a 3x40 to collect enough exps to be 4th on the 4x40 list seems pretty rare.

I appreciate how RR posts numbers when everyone else posts opinions. Obviously there is some reason for the imms to be balancing.

Charles

[Melanthe]

Well RR, this week I got 1.3m from grouping and 500m soloing. (3x more from grouping.. this is what I have been referring to).

Avatar, again I play too much. I can lvl virtually any classo to my lvl in the same timeframe. Lol. Anyways, I guess you dont' understand how I play. I am done posting here; gonna just enjoy playing the game. Too flamey for me.

All I did was respond and agree to Marchessa's posting about how necromancers are weaker then other prime classes grouping. And also stated that other prime classes have been upgraded much recently to where they are very powerful also. Prime mages that can blast for 800dmg. Cleric soloing ability is insane now. Thieves like Vaire, getting 5x40 in 2 months. Druids are extremely powerful also. Warriors are necessary for group mobs and fun to play (center of attention). Monks are great soloers as well as contribute to opening moves in groups. Bards are wonderful support class to groups (although I think bard soloing ability should be upraded). Heck, I'd have tons of fun playing any of these classes and wouldn't be whining. Anyways, done here. Not even gonna read this thread anymore (hopefully).

Melanthe

[Weasel]

hmm guess I must really suck at solo exp if 1+billion exp a week is considered normal(ish). Fyrstenheart had Necro in his classo btw, just not prime.

Interesting looking at 3x40, 3 of the top 5 soloists are Necro prime, only 1 doesn't have Necro in their classo (the 2 non-Necros are both Druid primes). At 4x40 and 3x40, none are Warrior primes. Maybe I should complain more? I don't think so. These stats don't show how many hours people played during that week, and the fact that hey, maybe the significant percentage of highly active players on at the moment are Necro primes because that's known to be the best prime at present for exp, therefore most of the top scorers will be Necros.. so really the stats don't tell the full story, but they are an indicator.

Perhaps if the stats showed points per hour online - I still spend a lot of time having to regen (Warrior prime) so I probably suck there as well. In grouping we all get the same exp based on levels, not classo (except leader and 1.tank bonuses) so really it's the solo exp that defines the best class in terms of exp..

[Melanthe]

[quote="Roadrunr":3vikw3ms]Try a Cleric-Mage-Warrior-Bard and see if you can solo from 1x40 to 3x40 in 2 weeks.[/quote:3vikw3ms]

You know I had already been thinking about making a cleric/mage. Is interesting that you put me up for the challenge, cause I happen to really like this classo. Mind if I go monk instead of warrior? (personal preference), and won't make a difference in my leveling from 1x40 to 3x40 in two weeks (I bet I can do it in less). So c/m/o/x, 1x40 to 3x40 in two weeks; okay I'll do it, not only to prove a point, but also I happen to really think this classo is very powerful, enjoyable and something I'd like to play in the future. The quad class I pick shouldn't matter for the 1x40 to 3x40 challenge right? So I pick necro, just cause I want more mana later on and wraithform and such. c/m/o/n. I'll have the char from level 0 to 3x40 in less than two weeks easily. I will not use *any* necro pets, necro skills or necro spells for this challenge; surely that is reasonable? Also since I will be lacking your quad bard's valuable lion chorus. In fact I'll leave the quad class at level 0. So 40x40x40x0 (anti-necro) in 2 weeks. I'll let you know when I start.

Hugs,
Melanthe

[*Splork*]

Im staying out of this silly argument, but I will say this, Vaire did not reach avatar in 2 months-it was much more than that.

Splork

[Weasel]

*tickle Splork* tee hee

[Roadrunr]

[quote="Melanthe":1swlm7v8][quote="Roadrunr":1swlm7v8]Try a Cleric-Mage-Warrior-Bard and see if you can solo from 1x40 to 3x40 in 2 weeks.[/quote:1swlm7v8]

You know I had already been thinking about making a cleric/mage. Is interesting that you put me up for the challenge, cause I happen to really like this classo. Mind if I go monk instead of warrior? (personal preference), and won't make a difference in my leveling from 1x40 to 3x40 in two weeks (I bet I can do it in less). So c/m/o/x, 1x40 to 3x40 in two weeks; okay I'll do it, not only to prove a point, but also I happen to really think this classo is very powerful, enjoyable and something I'd like to play in the future. The quad class I pick shouldn't matter for the 1x40 to 3x40 challenge right? So I pick necro, just cause I want more mana later on and wraithform and such. c/m/o/n. I'll have the char from level 0 to 3x40 in less than two weeks easily. I will not use *any* necro pets, necro skills or necro spells for this challenge; surely that is reasonable? Also since I will be lacking your quad bard's valuable lion chorus. In fact I'll leave the quad class at level 0. So 40x40x40x0 in 2 weeks. I'll let you know when I start.

Hugs,
Melanthe[/quote:1swlm7v8]

I picked warrior instead of monk or thief for a reason and I also left necro out for a reason. I'll give you necro quad as long as you dont level it. It's only 2 weeks of your more than abundant time right? So prove your point.


As for mage primes dealing 800dmg, I'll have to find one that's maxed out on spelldam and get nailed while nekkid and unlit before I'll believe that.

Weasel, I feel for ya, rr is in the same boat.

And, now I'm done with this. I could not care less that a 2x40 necro can solo faster then me. I play the chars that I have. What bothered me about this whole thing is the whining that necros need more and the claims made by melanthe made me look at the numbers. By now I should have learned that there's always someone whining about something.

[Melanthe]

Rr, I won't use any hand dam gear. I wont' be gripping or striking. I'll be blasting frostbolt. Don't see why I couldn't go with monk instead of warrior for this challenge. In fact, warrior has advantage over monk with this challenge, the extra attack (and many other new warrior skills). Also, I'll have counterattack way late in this test on the monk. The warrior skills make up for the monk's counterattack. Also, I have no quad class (i.e. no bard lion chorus for this test.) With this classo, I'll be focusing on spell dam gear not monk hand dam. I won't level a c/m/o/x any faster than c/m/w/x. I just wanna keep this classo for later on, after my point is proven that prime necros aren't anymore powerful than any other class, including c/m.

Melanthe

[Krok]

Clerics soloing abilities are insane now? Hah. Hah, hah! I'd like you to explain that to me, how did solo change for little clerics? They can now run better in catas or what? :))

And Vaire. That's about the player, he would do the same with any classo.

Necros should be happy they have so cool solo stuff and stop whining about small abilities in groups, cause actually their prime target is soloing.

[Rynquald]

Most dmg my 5x40 attuned prime mage has ever bolted for in testing was 500, only 73 spelldam gear, but i fail to see how the extra from capping it is going to make up 300 dam. Pretty sure that 500 was on a failed save too.

[Melanthe]

Krok, I wasn't whining. I was responding and agreeing to Marchessa's post about necro group skills being weak (who is not a necro ... but a warrior right?).. LOL. Personally, I don't care if necro group skills aren't improved. I am still an excellent healer in groups using my cleric skills, and will still weaken of course.

And I agree with you, it is the player not the classo. I'll get any classo to 3x40 in 2 weeks and have accepted Rr's offer to prove so. I am sick of people whining how powerful necros are, disregarding their own wonderful & very powerful skills. I like every prime class and would enjoy playing any of them.

I've offered to prove I can get a "little cleric" to 3x40 in 2 weeks (faster then I got Melanthe to 3x40). People were thinking my xp was impressive or something (attributing it to necro for some reason).. I dont' know why. I just know how to play and I play too much. Shrug.

Melanthe

[Medios]

Krok is 100% right. The player makes the char. Necros are supposed to be solo type chars imho. Adding group skills would pretty much make them overpowered. Group prime chars are bards, clerics, and possibly druids. What skills do druids have for grouping? Fire bane? hah. They gain power from mana. Also bards dont need much, Im quite happy with my bard prime and he cant strike/grip/stab. I play mage style lead with damnation and can prob solo about any mob your super powerful necros can. Not only that I got the most powerful group support char and leader.

Mike

[12345]

Well, I do think there's a condiction to that. Knowing the areas to run and how to fight the mobs in them is a pretty big part of the game. There's no area guides to the different areas and its really hard to tell how to fight a mob just by looking at it.

For instance, running through Irap splorking for the first time, you'll be rudely surprised if you try to stab the ants or a roc... Extreme example, but applies to most areas. There's no single equation that works everywhere. Learning the game and knowing the areas and mobs can be as important or more important than the character you play.

Most of that comes back to the player of course.