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What and Where is the Arena?

Postby jezer » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:11 pm

I've heard senior players talk about the "arena" and how they go in there with other players and test things. Somehow they calculate roughly how much damage there attacks are doing to mobs.

I had thought this "arena" was the coliseum, but this leads me to some facts that I don't understand...

1) The coliseum is solo, only one person can pull the chain at a time
2) How do you know the hit points of the mob you are fighting?
3) Might I add you get a random mob as well...

I've also heard that at the "arena" you can duel players... but once again, how does the second player enter the arena?

So I'm totally confused... Hopefully such a place does exist on the MUD somewhere I don't know about... and if it doesn't...

How about adding a further guantlet where player can fight player in exactly the same conditions as those at the coliseum... ie, auto-raise at the end of combat. A ways of practising our tourney skills as it were... without waiting a year.
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Postby Avatar » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:15 pm

lol, there is exactly that, already :)

There's an arena (not coliseum) north of Bal Harbor with a mob (questmaster) that will raise you if you die. It's a chaos zone, which means you can freely engage / stab / blast other players in there even if they are not wanted criminals.

There's another arena on SS, much larger.
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Postby jezer » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:21 pm

Thx Avatar...

hunt questmaster :twisted:

Do you have dirs to the one on SS?
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Postby Krok » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:46 pm

http://www.slothmud.org/eqlist/maproom.php?rnum=190

omfg more 3x40 newbs.. sorry, but that's toooooo funny
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Postby Krok » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:48 pm

dirs to bh arena are: from idol - all n w few n till u can go east, all e, up or smth like this
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Postby brady » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:56 pm

idol
cast 'fly' self
all up
cast 'dispel mag' self
arena
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Postby brady » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:58 pm

Oh, and those directions are just for the mean klurik. All others, wear a helmet.
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Postby Krok » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:03 pm

Brady, you don't even need the complicated stuff the like idol dive.. you just get beat up by the mighty quicklings! :))
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Postby brady » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:08 pm

Well they swarm! I think Madmax is dead there right now :)
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Postby Krok » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:14 pm

Nah, Max likes to die in Tel Makor. Scary 200-400k mobs get him all the time.
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Postby jezer » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:05 pm

Getting to the questmaster in the arena on BH...

From west gate...

4e10nw4n2eu

STEP 1: ungroup yourself

STEP 2: follow questmaster
fol questmaster
You are now a group member.
You now follow the Questmaster of the Tower.
Blastem -- 'ok now you can get raised :)'

STEP 3: we left east in this case
NOTE: Blastem sanct'ed and so did I

COMBAT: ------------HEY I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS!:P------------

<930hp 94ma 216mv +10al -8.5ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<871hp 94ma 216mv +10al -8.5ac>
You miss Blastem with your hit.
Blastem pierces you.
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
A mirror image of Blastem wavers but does not fall!
Blastem pierces you.
Blastem pierces you.

<859hp 94ma 217mv +10al -8.5ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<729hp 94ma 217mv +10al -8.5ac>
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
A mirror image of Blastem wavers from existence!
Blastem pierces you.
You deal a critical blow to one of Blastem's vital organs.
You massacre Blastem to small fragments with your hit.
A mirror image of Blastem wavers from existence!
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
Blastem pierces you hard.
Blastem pierces you.
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<654hp 95ma 218mv +10al -8.5ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<595hp 96ma 220mv +10al -8.5ac>
You deal a critical blow to one of Blastem's vital organs.
You massacre Blastem to small fragments with your hit.
A mirror image of Blastem wavers from existence!
Blastem pierces you.
You hit Blastem very hard.
A mirror image of Blastem wavers from existence!
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
Blastem pierces you hard.
Blastem pierces you.

<579hp 96ma 221mv +10al -8.5ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'xzb'
You are covered in sticky webs!

<581hp 96ma 221mv +10al -8.2ac>
You hit Blastem very hard.
Blastem misses you with his pierce.
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
You hit Blastem hard.
Blastem pierces you.

<579hp 97ma 222mv +10al -8.2ac>
gt that tickles
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<522hp 97ma 222mv +10al -8.2ac>
You grouptell: 'that tickles'

<524hp 97ma 223mv +10al -8.2ac>
A deafening clap of thunder explodes from the Gauntlets of Thunder as you land a powerful blow!
Blastem staggers under the strike and appears dazed.


<525hp 97ma 223mv +10al -8.2ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<463hp 98ma 224mv +10al -8.2ac>
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
Blastem pierces you.
You hit Blastem hard.
You deal a critical blow to one of Blastem's vital organs.
You massacre Blastem to small fragments with your hit.
Blastem pierces you.
Blastem pierces you.

<447hp 98ma 224mv +10al -8.2ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'eugszr waouq'
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...
You feel dizzy for a moment...

<450hp 98ma 225mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem gets some salmon from Cloak of Specialization.

<451hp 99ma 226mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem eats some salmon.

<451hp 99ma 226mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<350hp 99ma 226mv +10al -4.2ac>
You hit Blastem very hard.
Blastem pierces you very hard.
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
You hit Blastem hard.
Blastem cripples you with a blow to your organs.
Blastem massacres you to small fragments with his pierce.
Blastem pierces you very hard.

<307hp 99ma 226mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<200hp 99ma 227mv +10al -4.2ac>
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
Blastem cripples you with a blow to your organs.
Blastem pierces you extremely hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
You deal a critical blow to one of Blastem's vital organs.
You massacre Blastem to small fragments with your hit.
Blastem pierces you hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
Blastem pierces you very hard.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!

<163hp 100ma 228mv +10al -4.2ac>
gt haha
You grouptell: 'haha' (<---- This was the last laugh)

<163hp 100ma 229mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
You have been KILLED!!


Very interesting! Blastem said he was fighting in regen... I hope for his sake he was! In one round he hit me with 3 pierces for 12hp damage! With bloodrage you can

just about regen that! For all you tourney people out there, you can learn quite a bit from this. (As I did, this being my first player fight) Notice how I fell

apart when he dispelled me? I lost my quicken, my stone skin and my sanct. Frostbolt damage went from 59hp too around 200hp. So what I'd learn from this at the

tourney is... you are as good as your eq... You can tank up as much as you want, but if the person who is fighting you debuff's you with a dispel and a curse/weaken

- your in major trouble! Eq spell effects resist fire/resist cold a must for fighting player casters. Be prepared to get your stone skin back up! (Don't rely on

spells for a dex point either!)


OK so I'm dead... now what...
Blastem -- 'ok just type quit!' (Umm, doesn't that make you leave the game and your eq behind for pthiefs to loot?)
Blastem -- 'dun worry' (Ok, Blastem... he's a member of DoW - he can't be a pthief...)

quit!
You die before your time!
You feel much, much better!
<1hp 100ma 229mv +10al -4.2ac>
gt nice
You grouptell: 'nice'

Blastem says 'say restore'

say restore
The Questmaster of the Tower prepares you for an arena fight and makes a note in his participants book.
<930hp 169ma 236mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem smiles happily.

WOOT! I just died got raised and restored! Now lets recall back to BH and tell the world I lost!

Blastem recites a scroll of recall.
West Gate
This is the west gate of the port city of Bal Harbor. A wide dirt
roadway leads in between a pair of squarish-looking guard towers into the
city to the east, and to west disappears into a flat grassy plain. Visible
to the far west is what appears to be a forest or jungle that rims the
entire western horizon. To the east, the roadway can be seen to lead into
a distant town square.
Exits: East|look East|scan EastEast|East|Look|ScanEast West|look West|scan WestWest|West|Look|ScanWest Up|look Up|scan UpUp|Up|Look|ScanUp
take book-forgotten-diminished-spellbook-xzatunsoTake/Get A forgotten diminished book lies alone in a corner.A forgotten diminished book lies alone in a corner.
A large note dispenser, with a button on the top, is here against the wall.
A large bulletin board is mounted on a wall here.
A big, important-looking sign titled 'New Player Info' stands here.

Stop being a coward! Get back to the arena and fight!
The Questmaster of the Tower returns Jezer to Thunder Dome Arena.

Blastem falls down laughing.
Blastem says 'now.. rule is this'
Blastem says 'you'll have to wait here a few min till it says you can leave'

HAHAHA! Pick on the n00b :p

l
Tower Gate
Heavy oak doors, studded with iron, stand open. Beyond the doors, an
arch leads into the interior of a small tower. Chutes set into the ceiling
of the arch, and channels cut into its sides, suggest that the tower is
equipped to defend itself in the event of an attack.
Exits: East|look East|scan EastEast|East|Look|ScanEast West|look West|scan WestWest|West|Look|ScanWest Down|look Down|scan DownDown|Down|Look|ScanDown
Blastem He who laughs last thinks slowest. ~[DoW]~ is standing here.
Blastem glows with a bright light!
The Questmaster of the Tower looks at you disdainfully.

OK, OK, Plz don't kill me questmaster dude! :p

You may now leave Thunder Dome Arena. (OK now you can leave!)


Thats it! I've been slothing for nearly a year... and I never knew you could do that till today. So anyways I am hoping to find someone to partner up with and test a whole bunch of monk stuff. If you wanna help out... send me a tell or leave a message. Hopefully I can check out some of the monk combat rumours.

Oh one last thing to Krok... I hope you got the warm jolly feeling inside you crave when you laugh at n00bs. Some of us don't profess to know everything, but we aren't afraid to learn through our ignorance... if anything that should be applauded :wink:
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Postby Krok » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:24 pm

Ok, Blastem... he's a member of DoW - he can't be a pthief..

---> that's my favourite!!)))))

and yeah, i have such a feeling when the newb is high level :)
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Arena FAQS

Postby jezer » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:27 pm

I'm here to entertain you Krok :P
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Postby Avatar » Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:06 am

I found a few interesting things:

[quote:135ws6q8]<524hp 97ma 223mv +10al -8.2ac>
A deafening clap of thunder explodes from the Gauntlets of Thunder as you land a powerful blow!
Blastem staggers under the strike and appears dazed.


<525hp 97ma 223mv +10al -8.2ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.

<463hp 98ma 224mv +10al -8.2ac>
You hit Blastem extremely hard.
Blastem pierces you.
You hit Blastem hard.
You deal a critical blow to one of Blastem's vital organs.
You massacre Blastem to small fragments with your hit.
Blastem pierces you.
Blastem pierces you. [/quote:135ws6q8]

I thought the gloves proc would stun him a round, preventing spells? It seemed Blastem blasted right away?

Second:

[quote:135ws6q8]Fight...fight...fight...

Blastem thinks 'hmm I'm feeling a mite munchie'

<450hp 98ma 225mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem gets some salmon from Cloak of Specialization.

<451hp 99ma 226mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem eats some salmon.

<451hp 99ma 226mv +10al -4.2ac>
Blastem utters the words, 'yfaghbarh'
You resist a bit of the damage...
A bolt of ice strikes you in the chest, freezing your flesh.[/quote:135ws6q8]

Then third, in Jezer's analysis:

[quote:135ws6q8]you are as good as your eq... You can tank up as much as you want, but if the person who is fighting you debuff's you with a dispel and a curse/weaken - your in major trouble! Eq spell effects resist fire/resist cold a must for fighting player casters. Be prepared to get your stone skin back up! (Don't rely on spells for a dex point either!) [/quote:135ws6q8]

In my opinion, you missed the point. Earlier you mentioned that his three attacks did 12 damage. At that rate, who cares if your AC is -11 or -8 or 3.0. The point to the arena is keeping your sanc up and not getting webbed. You can prevent the dispels from hitting your sanc (and other spells) by using a little bit of spell shield. The dispel will hit your spell shields first, and only after multiple dispels will your shield drop and your buffs get targetted. At the same time, you should be striking or blasting to drag him into the fight to prevent him from getting a chance to cast multiple dispels.

It's good to see you had fun, player vs player isn't my favorite activity but it can be quite a blast once in awhile.
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Postby Blastem » Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:35 am

[quote:5ypq1rc1]Very interesting! Blastem said he was fighting in regen... I hope for his sake he was! In one round he hit me with 3 pierces for 12hp damage![/quote:5ypq1rc1]

Yes this was regen eq... I was wielding a gem cutter laugh.

[quote:5ypq1rc1]I thought the gloves proc would stun him a round, preventing spells? It seemed Blastem blasted right away? [/quote:5ypq1rc1]

Actually the stun did seem to lag me for a 1/2 second or so nothing major.

[quote:5ypq1rc1]Blastem thinks 'hmm I'm feeling a mite munchie'
[/quote:5ypq1rc1]

Needed some energy.. you know it's a lot of work tossin spells and everyone knows salmon is a good energy food :) .


[quote:5ypq1rc1]you are as good as your eq... You can tank up as much as you want, but if the person who is fighting you debuff's you with a dispel and a curse/weaken - your in major trouble! Eq spell effects resist fire/resist cold a must for fighting player casters. Be prepared to get your stone skin back up! (Don't rely on spells for a dex point either!)[/quote:5ypq1rc1]

This I disagree with I have time and again watched people with lessor eq beat out stacked chars. There are a few reasons for this as I see them:

#1 PvP experience (people have or do play in pk muds)
#2 Keep moving.. in PvP he who stands still dies it makes you an easier target for a stab or dispell.
#3 remember to use all of the skills / spells in your arsenal there are some very low level skills that are extremely nice in PvP I'll mention bash here.
#4 Fast reactions if you can hit your opponent before he can hit you with a prime attack or non combat spell it will greatly increase your odds.
#5 Remember some things work different PvP than fighting mobs such as being able to stab/grip a wounded person.

Just a few tips
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