Reasonable Behaviour: Language & Trolling

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Postby Rynquald » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:43 pm

I was always under the impression there was reasonable leeway in the rules for dealing with harassment (referring to the sb guy who used tell instead of gossip here), personally I'd have webbed/silenced/blinded/slept them, and I doubt I'd be encountering punishment for it...toss could be fun too :twisted:

Wouldn't go to the point of killing them or anything of course, unless it got totally out of hand after they found their way out of the webs (as in direct attacks, self defence is a wonderful thing).
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Postby 12345 » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:04 pm

[quote="Clink":3nxrhdno]I would also suggest that there are ways to gag people and/or profanity while still playing. It's a lot easier on the mud where people in general wouldn't be trying to avoid a personal profanity filter. I also believe in taking action rather than being a victim. Perhaps you could even post the scripts on our forums when you finish them. [/quote:3nxrhdno]

Not saying this is a bad idea, but it is a bad precident.

ie. You actually create a script that does mass substitutions:

wtf -> what is
**** -> ****
asshole -> buddy
ahole -> buddy
etc...

That actually works to promote cursing. Even more funny would be recommending that people sensitive to this download and install the profanity filter to their scripts. You don't want to know how many people don't understand how scripts work. Or even clients for that matter. It often seems the worst cursers are the best at writting scripts.

Not to mention the folks we have dancing around filters currently.

I know some folks on Sloth are a little coarse, but typically I've found that being polite works pretty well. I've seen fairly good responses to things like 'Please don't curse like that, I have children.' At the same time, lack of manners is typically met with more of the same. And Mustang can give more of the same rather handily...

Mustang's correct... sloth is pretty clean compared to some of the real world. However, kid's are impressionable and undermining a parent's authority is a serious problem. You want to teach them what is unacceptable behavior before they join the workforce and find out the hard way. At least if they watch their language around their parents, they're capable of doing it in a place of business.

Dragging this all onto the crier is just mudslinging at this point. There's nothing that says you can't curse privately. However, you run the same risks as real life in that someone _may_ overhear you and be somewhat offended. In real life, you would probably simply apologize and forget about it, not publish it in the local paper.

I think that's all I have to say about that...
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Postby kjartan » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:24 pm

I don't particularly like seeing cursing, but I think the omnipresent bad grammar and spelling may be considerably more harmful to the kiddies. If someone writes a script to correct those, let me know.
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Postby Clink » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:35 pm

[quote="*kjartan*":17p1rf4r]I don't particularly like seeing cursing, but I think the omnipresent bad grammar and spelling may be considerably more harmful to the kiddies. If someone writes a script to correct those, let me know.[/quote:17p1rf4r]

zMud has a spellchecker built in. Wintin might be able to integrate with the spellchecker/grammar checker from MS, but Frobisher would be the best to speak to that point. However, most people will ignore the red squigly lines when in a hurry on the mud. ;)
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Postby Weasel » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:38 pm

ack! red squiggly line spam! hehe
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Postby kjartan » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:07 pm

[quote="Clink":1jqn5gzu][quote="*kjartan*":1jqn5gzu]I don't particularly like seeing cursing, but I think the omnipresent bad grammar and spelling may be considerably more harmful to the kiddies. If someone writes a script to correct those, let me know.[/quote:1jqn5gzu]

zMud has a spellchecker built in. Wintin might be able to integrate with the spellchecker/grammar checker from MS, but Frobisher would be the best to speak to that point. However, most people will ignore the red squigly lines when in a hurry on the mud. ;)[/quote:1jqn5gzu]

Anyhow, I'd rather see natural bad grammar than text that had been converted to bad grammar by the lame suggestions given by the MS grammar checker.
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Postby Grue » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:50 pm

BTW, I fully understand that my kids hear cussing on the school bus, at school, at the skating ring, at the skateboard park... This is not about protecting my kids from language. This is about my not being prepared to endorse a place that has it when I am trying to raise them not to cus. It is exactly the same as not allowing them to play at people's houses where the parents use the f-word the whole time, which I don't. This is not a moral question for me, if you want to cus go ahead, hell there are worse things you could be doing. Just don't be upset if I ask you not to do it around me - that is a lifestyle choice I have made. Also understand that it is hard for me to recommend to my kids to play Sloth and then have them say to my wife, "Do you know that there are guys who are always f***ing this and f***ing that on the game Dad plays."

I actually don't believe most of the people who cus on Sloth do it in real life. They do it here because they are anonymous and won;t have their boss/kids/parents/wife/partner call them on it here.

I here bad language at work, I ask people to stop. I hear bad language at a family restaurant with my family, I'll go to the table and ask them to stop. Why should it be any different in the Inn on BH? I respect you right to cuss in private, can't you respect my request that you not do it in public? I don;t actually think I'm being unreasaonable.
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Postby Autolycos » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:34 pm

NOOOOOOOO!!

If you enable a spellchecker/grammer checker you might as well #gag autolycos

the world will die without my typos!!!!

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[quote="*kjartan*":2jsa823l][quote="Clink":2jsa823l][quote="*kjartan*":2jsa823l]I don't particularly like seeing cursing, but I think the omnipresent bad grammar and spelling may be considerably more harmful to the kiddies. If someone writes a script to correct those, let me know.[/quote:2jsa823l]

zMud has a spellchecker built in. Wintin might be able to integrate with the spellchecker/grammar checker from MS, but Frobisher would be the best to speak to that point. However, most people will ignore the red squigly lines when in a hurry on the mud. ;)[/quote:2jsa823l]

Anyhow, I'd rather see natural bad grammar than text that had been converted to bad grammar by the lame suggestions given by the MS grammar checker.[/quote:2jsa823l]
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Postby Leaf » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:13 pm

[quote="Mustang":31qup4e2]bald-people as "hair-deficient", fat people as "unfortunately sized" ugly people as "esthetically disabled" [/quote:31qup4e2]

Sooo, this makes you 3 for 3 huh AA???

MUHAHAHAHA

Also I don't hide behide my char in games. What u see is what u get in RL
and in Sloth. U should know, and a lot of ppl that I've met can also agree.

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Postby Leaf » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:13 pm

dup Post ... got some error when posting the first time ...
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Postby Mustang » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:57 am

obviously nobody would really want their kids hanging around other kids whose parents swear every other word.

but you wouldn't go to their house and tell them to quit swearing so that your kid can hang out with them either.

if you feel the game is inappropriate for your kids, then by all means keep them away. but don't expect the game to "appropriate" itself so they can play. it's like expecting porn to not contain nudity or sex just so kids can watch them for the plot.

and by the way, leaf, this isn't aaron
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Postby Guinex » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:13 am

Damn I would be pissed if porn lost the nudity....what would i do with myself? One can only watch so many cartoons :o
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Postby 12345 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:01 am

You'd be lost if they passed a law saying all the people in porn had to have a pulse... :wink:
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Postby Autolycos » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:26 am

ouch, that one is worthy of 2 points :!:



besides no worries, if the porn industry suffered any major losses and was removed from ez access, the internet would crumble and decay into a vast wasteland, and all we would be left is auction sites and cheesey text adventure games. :twisted:



long live torrent :!:
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Postby blackmore » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:53 am

[quote="Grue":3hm1sm69]This is about my not being prepared to endorse a place that has it when I am trying to raise them not to cus. [/quote:3hm1sm69]
I don't let mine on it because I don't need her wasting her life away getting no homework done.

I thought parts of your first post were as offensive as anything else I've seen on the crier, and I know I'm a strict parent. On the other hand, I agreed with nearly everything in the second.

I don't ban any particular style of song from our house (ok, except for bluegrass), but I do reserve the right to reject or delete any song I find that's offensive, no matter what the genre is. I teach my kid not to swear, but I'll be shocked if she doesn't. As long as she knows not to do it at home, I've done my job - taught her to be able to control it. When I'm at work, it's the only time I don't worry about my language, unless I'm on the phone with customers. I actually read an article in a SQL newsletter that said when you're interviewing for a job, cursing isn't always bad because people want to know if you're going to fit in with them.
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