Conspiracy or State's preparing for the worst?

[Medios]

I think this sums it up better

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=45735

Should Democratic Party merge with Communist Party?

"No doubt such a question will immediately raise the hackles of those who belong to the Democratic Party, but I believe this is a valid question considering the Communist Party USA and the Communist Party of Red China endorsed John Kerry
for president in the last pretend election. They wouldn't endorse him unless they felt he would continue to further the agenda for world communism via the official Democratic Party. "


[quote="Mosaix":2nru18hh]I think Pete Sessions Republican from Texas sums it up pretty well.

The republican party should use the Taliban tactics as a model for the party.

Good to have goals for your party that involve ideas from a terrorist group.

This is Pete Sessions audio clip link below



[url:2nru18hh]http://lostintransition.nationaljournal.com/sessions_2.mp3[/url:2nru18hh][/quote:2nru18hh]

Wiki calls this an insurgency.
An insurgency is a rebellion against a constituted authority (for example an authority recognised as such by the United Nations) when those taking part in the rebellion are not recognised as belligerents. Belligerents being hostile.

So basically he is saying that when the Dems get out of control they will have to rebel. You had your fun during the last 8 years making fun of Bush and now the medicine isn't tasting good. If you sit around and think that everything Obama does is of godly magnitude then your clearly brainwashed. I am sorry that you can blindly let him do whatever he wants, but some people will point it out no matter if you like it or not. The facts are the facts, read the news. Even NBC is now lambasting the president for the pork that he clearly said was not in the stimulus and omnibus bills. Any moron can read them and know that its pork. When you take money from one person and spend it on a butterfly museum for your constituency or whatever other nonsense then its stealing. The federal government was never intended to "rob" citizens of their property and distribute to other States. It is clear if you read anything from our history. If you want to give more of your money to someone else then do it, but don't force it on everyone. Class envy is weak.

Again I never fully supported Bush like you support Obama. I have my problems with him that I have pointed out in the past. Whenever I did point it out you call me a names or make unsubstantiated claims. You made fun of my support for Ron Paul, who clearly was against the war, fiat currency, and the assault on liberty. Your arguments are weak at best.


Thomas Jefferson, quotes about Patriotism:
God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, [b:2nru18hh]if it's rulers are not warned from time to time[/b:2nru18hh], that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? [b:2nru18hh]The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants[/b:2nru18hh]. It is its natural manure.

Henry Brooks Adams, quotes about Patriotism:
Politics, as a practise, whatever its professions, has always been the systematic organization of hatreds.

Ulysses S. Grant, quotes about Patriotism:
If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and [b:2nru18hh]superstition, ambition and ignorance[/b:2nru18hh] on the other.

Elmer Davis, quotes about Patriotism:
The republic was not established by [b:2nru18hh]cowards[/b:2nru18hh], and cowards will not preserve it.

Henry Steele Commager, quotes about Patriotism:
[b:2nru18hh]Men in authority[/b:2nru18hh] will always think that criticism of their policies is dangerous. They will always equate their policies with patriotism, and find criticism subversive.

Robert A. Heinlein, quotes about Patriotism:
Love your country, but never [b:2nru18hh]trust[/b:2nru18hh] its government.

Justice Louis D. Brandeis, quotes about Patriotism:
[b:2nru18hh]The constitutional right of free speech has been declared to be the same in peace and war.[/b:2nru18hh] In peace, too, men may differ widely as to what loyalty to our country demands, and an intolerant majority, swayed by passion or by fear, may be prone in the future, as it has been in the past, to[b:2nru18hh] stamp as disloyal opinions with which it disagrees[/b:2nru18hh].

Dr. G. Brock Chisolm, quotes about Patriotism:
To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas.

It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. ~Voltaire

You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it. ~Malcolm X

Disobedience, the rarest and most courageous of the virtues, is seldom distinguished from neglect, the laziest and commonest of the vices. ~George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionists

Every actual state is corrupt. Good men must not obey laws too well. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." ~Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Why We Can't Wait, 1963

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Amen. Well spoken.

[Weasel]

Nice post Medios. Unfortunately it is an exercise in futility trying to convince a fanatical Obamessiah zealot anything that may in any way discredit or contradict the teachings of The Big Zero, or their irrational interpretations of such. [b:26e6hk74][color=cyan:26e6hk74]*[/color:26e6hk74][/b:26e6hk74]

Continued attempts at rational reasoning with an Obamessiah zealot will only result in your being labeled a racist, nazi, Bushitlerite, card-carrying fascist (even f you're a black democrat and despise Bush.. of course that would just mean you're also an Uncle Tom).

If the Obamessiah says that a padded cell is not a padded cell, then a true zealot will firmly believe it, even if they are locked in one for the rest of their life. This is clearly demonstrated in The Big Zero's "No Pork, No Earmarks" stimulus bill, which actually contains approximately 9,000 earmarks.. not that anyone's counting.

[b:26e6hk74][color=cyan:26e6hk74]*[/color:26e6hk74][/b:26e6hk74] ..although it can be fun to poke them with a stick now and then.

[reboog]

jezer: your nick length sure is wrong

[jezer]

I apologise reboog... some of us just aren't as greating as others.

[Weasel]

Tap: your nick length is only half right.

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One of your quotes disturbs me greatly...

Dr. G. Brock Chisolm, quotes about Patriotism:
To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas.


If you remove these things, what is left in the minds of men?

And is individualism something to be cast aside so lightly?


With regard to this "insurgency"...it is completely unnecessary and irresponsible.

This election was won by quite a healthy margin, both in the electoral college and in the popular vote.

The congressional election results also reinforce the validity of the presidential election...the overwhelming majority of democrats clearly demonstrates the republican lack of popularity.

Even when Bush Jr.'s approval rating plummeted to 30% or whatever it was, there was not widespread talk of this sort.

It is shameful, empty talk, born from bitterness and designed to exploit an unhappy minority. (yes, vocal republicans are a minority)

It is a government by the people, for the people.

This administration was elected by the people, and so was the last one, and all the other ones.

So regardless of who you personally might fanatically support, it really doesn't matter...unless you have the backing of a large media corporation capable of telling millions what they're supposed to be thinking and feeling.

[Weasel]

[quote="Poggle":1h8nhbl2]Even when Bush Jr.'s approval rating plummeted to 30% or whatever it was, there was not widespread talk of this sort.[/quote:1h8nhbl2]

ORLY???

[img:1h8nhbl2]http://www.benmautner.com/widerangle/bush_stamp.jpg[/img:1h8nhbl2]

[img:1h8nhbl2]http://www.flipsideshow.com/images/Bush--KillTShirt.jpg[/img:1h8nhbl2]

[img:1h8nhbl2]http://files.blog-city.com/files/A05/107842/p/f/beheadbush_sm.jpg[/img:1h8nhbl2]

[img:1h8nhbl2]http://thepeoplescube.com/images/images_working/Hitler_Muslims/Bush_Hitler_sm.jpg[/img:1h8nhbl2]

There are hundreds if not thousands of much worse things written about Bush from deranged liberals. The double standards since Obama took office is astounding.

[reboog]

On Wednesdays I am made of sodium

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I assumed that this Pete Sessions fellow is a person of some importance, since he is apparently worth talking about. I guess this might not be the case.

The list you provided clearly contains no one of importance.

In any case, seriously talking of insurgency is well out of line, arguably worse than the figurative symbolism you presented.

And of course there's a double standard, it happens whenever you change presidents so I would expect it would be more pronounced when you change from a white neo-con to a black demo.

People always have trouble seeing the flaws in their chosen champions.

And for the record, I am not an Obama zealot.

The best I can say of Obama is that he appears to be genuinely trying for the transparency he promised.

The best I can say of Bush is that it's quite impressive that he managed to be elected and re-elected, considering his overall approval rating and his touch-and-go relationship with the english language.

My ideal candidate: none. I want so much power to be stripped from the federal government (particularly the executive branch) that the election becomes a non-issue.


Edit: "Paul fellow" was actually supposed to be "Pete Sessions fellow"

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To those concerned:

My nick length is only half wrong.

[Medios]

Dr. Ron Paul is a champion of liberty. He even turned down his congressional pension. He doesn't want your money. He wants everyone to be free from the tyranny of government.

Remember Obama is the one that said our Constitution is a document of negative liberties. Unlike past presidents he is going to skip right to Amendment one and work from there. If everyone is scared to speak against him he can surely do anything he likes. I for one refuse to allow the govt to tell me where to work, how much to make, and what I do on my free time. If you guys like having your hand held and having big brother pour your tea that is fine as long as it is not in America. If it is so damn good to be Communist then why are Russia and China fleeing it like rats off a sinking ship? Central planning does not work. Joseph Stalin does not work. Intimidation through threats does not work.

Freedom works.

[Vixn]

[quote="Medios":2nftv7s5]If it is so damn good to be Communist then why are Russia and China fleeing it like rats off a sinking ship?[/quote:2nftv7s5]
As I know China is still under the control of CCP (Communist Party of China). And central planning still works there.

[quote="Medios":2nftv7s5]Central planning does not work.[/quote:2nftv7s5]
Agree. At least in USSR it gave dreadful results.

[quote="Medios":2nftv7s5]Joseph Stalin does not work.[/quote:2nftv7s5]
Sure he doesn't. He died like 55 years ago. Seriously the problem with Stalin wasn't that he was a communist, but the problem was with his tyranny.

[quote="Medios":2nftv7s5]Freedom works.[/quote:2nftv7s5]
I hope so. But as it seems to me people all over the world still should fight for their own freedom. No doubt there is no freedom in Russia, neither in China. But also there is just a bit better situation in America and you guys keep loosing freedom every year. You went too far away from the freedom that Founding Fathers were dreaming about.

Vixn.

[Yasik2]

[quote="Poggle":2l76oj03]The best I can say of Bush is that it's quite impressive blah blah blah[/quote:2l76oj03]

Huhuhuh he said 'bush'

[reboog]

China is not communist.