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Postby *juggleblood* » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:31 pm

Tox is generously updating the cartography and eq section of the website.

There are a lot of maps that could use minor updates. There are bad exits, missing rooms, missing information, etc..

Anyone who makes minor improvements to a map and sends it to Tox can be rewarded 5 drachma if your map ends up on the website.

Some of the maps could use a real sprucing up with a better design, graphics, etc.

If you remake an entire map and Tox decides to replace the existing map with yours, we'll spot you up to 25 drachma.

If you do remap something, take the time to check for spellbook pops that might be absent from the map and the eqlist.
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Postby Toxis » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:50 am

There is equipment out there that has never been submitted to the eqlist. Equipment that's been in game for quite some time. It would be much appreciated if people would do that so I could add it to the eqlist.

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Postby Vixn » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:13 pm

Do you think we start to cycle all the fukking mobs in all that stupid areas?

[b:1higtdel][color=red:1higtdel]*CHANGE THE FUKKIN WEALTH&GLORY SO WE KNOW MOB LOADS SOMETHING EXCEPT RANDOM SHIT!*[/color:1higtdel][/b:1higtdel]

just my 2 cents.

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p.s. If you do this I promise I'll sing with my bard all that EQ and will post here top 10 mobs I find to let ppl know they can pop decent piece of eq from them. And I will probably mage-stlyle few of them and post ID results here.
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Postby jezer » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:32 pm

I suspect the new mobs in dweb pop more than whats been posted, and quite possibly it's what Tox is refering too. But I'm certainly not about to solo 4 run mobs 20 times, in about 10 different spots to find out. If someone really wants to be the awesomeness go ahead... I'll clap your achievement afterward. :roll:

However if ya give Kida a new song that informs the bard that a mob does in fact pop some form of equipment, I'll consider helping him out.
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Postby *juggleblood* » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:34 pm

How does wealth and glory work anyway? I've only fooled around with it a little with Napoleon and didn't find it to be very helpful. I thought maybe it was because I don't have much charisma gear. As it is now, you pretty much have to already know the name of the item that pops? For example, you can't just sing 'wealth and glory' spellbook right? You get some message like please be more specific or something?

And btw, the answer is no. I don't expect you to do anything. But if someone would LIKE to, the offer is there.
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Postby jezer » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:37 pm

I think you need two of the keywords in the item name... Kind of hard to use to your advantage when you don't know them. Mob descriptions about what they wear are an exception generally rather than the rule.
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Postby reboog » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:01 pm

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Postby reboog » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:56 am

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Postby Vixn » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:39 pm

[quote="juggleblood":3v59tqyt]How does wealth and glory work anyway? I've only fooled around with it a little with Napoleon and didn't find it to be very helpful. I thought maybe it was because I don't have much charisma gear. As it is now, you pretty much have to already know the name of the item that pops? For example, you can't just sing 'wealth and glory' spellbook right? You get some message like please be more specific or something?

And btw, the answer is no. I don't expect you to do anything. But if someone would LIKE to, the offer is there.[/quote:3v59tqyt]

Well, first of all, sorry for my rude tone.

To sing out who loads an item you need to know 2 keywords in item name and it will took you an hour or so to find an area where it loads. Then you can spent a day to find out who loads item. And it works if there is at least few non-aggro mobs in that area who will listen you, because golems and such can't listen. Otherwise you will spent even more time.

For example, I think there's an item that can be involved in one unsolved autoquest. I know 1 word for this item (that I accidently got on locate). Unfortunately, it seems this items loads in inventory so I still don't know 2nd word to use wealth & glory (and I don't even sure it is possible to get any info with wealth & glory for this item, I think you know there are few items that you can't find out with wealth & glory).

Well, back to my rude phrase. As you probably notice it slightly upset me when I see how much imms care about players ideas (except bad ones). You told I shouldn't post ideas/bugs and such here and better use proper channel ingame. So I did but still don't see it fixed. Another example, I think there were plenty of maps and paths me and another mappers submitted about an year ago. But nothing changed. We still don't have maps for Dark Chasm, Herbalist Island and stuff. I mailed fixed runs for few areas but they didn't changed (so people still run to onyx tower through drakkan forest which is nor fast neither safe run). And this dumb run to Chaeston (to Seal Guardian actually) - the run in map section is impossible if you have fly up. There are at least 2 more runs you can use with fly up but you (imms) don't want to change it or just too lazy to copy-paste it from my e-mail.

Now we have another map quest and eq quest. Hope people will take part. At least I'm about it and I won't care if you don't change anything until I can get drachma with it.

I shocked you still read all this letters.

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Postby Toxis » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:07 pm

Imms work for free, have real life problems, and get distracted on other projects. I've wanted access to EQ and MAPS for ages and now I've finally gotten that access and have been trying to fix things up. I understand and feel your frustration. You could probably ask any imm how easily I have gotten frustrated in the past. But we all want the same thing and that's for Sloth to be a good mud, and add to it so it can grow.

So we have had people who have quit or are taken time away from Sloth. It happens. Pls email me any maps or fixes and I'll try to get to them as soon as I possibly can.

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Postby Weasel » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:27 pm

Thanks Tox.

btw, anyone coding vaults atm, or still waiting to see if other bugs ironed out first?
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Postby jezer » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:39 pm

[quote="Vixn":3vrol50c]Well, first of all, sorry for my rude tone.

....

Well, back to my rude phrase. [/quote:3vrol50c]

Your posts number amongst the best I read... always a nice dosage of sarcasm and wit mixed with common sense and good ideas. +1 :twisted:
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Postby *juggleblood* » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:58 pm

It's hard to find people to do this stuff. Not that no one listens to the ideas. I wish some coder would go to town on bards. I think bard songs need some work, but I know the few coders we have are busy working on other stuff like finding crash bugs.

I just wanted to point out that we finally have someone with access and interest in the cartography and eq section. I think the last person in charge of this is blackmore? I don't even know who this is.

I wish we could somehow draw Alias/Pooka back into the game and convince him to do coding work on skills and whatnot. He learned to code, graduated from tech school, etc, but then forgot about us :(
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Postby jezer » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:09 pm

Blackmore is Taliesin... often found dead under an elemental fury in Drexel or a Terracotta Solider in CK. :twisted: In fact maybe we should make a special marking for his favorite corpse spots on the new maps.
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