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[alias]

Nab's is higher than mine, we discussed it at one point.

[13]

you are getting the benefits of serious frostbolt margn mana spelldmg
restoration and all that jazz. each class order is meant to be different, so shut the hell up or reroll for what you really want and quit your whining.

[13]

Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on the
part of the immortals.

[Leaf]

[quote="13":3mrg2ocw]Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on the
part of the immortals.[/quote:3mrg2ocw]

How is it lack of planning if every Nc/Mo char that I know gets around +300
hp regen? Its not an emergency, and I never said it was. I just want an
explaination. Just like how Jake was able to fix the rescue lag on monks.
There was something wrong with it, and it was fixed cause I brought it up.

[Medios]

[quote="Leaf":2wck9lff][quote="13":2wck9lff]Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on the
part of the immortals.[/quote:2wck9lff]

How is it lack of planning if every Nc/Mo char that I know gets around +300
hp regen? Its not an emergency, and I never said it was. I just want an
explaination. Just like how Jake was able to fix the rescue lag on monks.
There was something wrong with it, and it was fixed cause I brought it up.[/quote:2wck9lff]

So your saying you don't have an increased mr over dogs by about 15-20 points? If so I would like to know how that is possible. Nc Nc get a bigger benefit from contemplation because our mr is about 50. I don't know how else to explain it. I guess next you will say Dogs has more hp also.

[13]

damn now why in the FU CK should a monk WAR have more hp than a monk MAGE? huh!!?? someone answer me [i:jtie18m5]THAT[/i:jtie18m5]!

[Medios]

[quote="13":3ctlrp6q]damn now why in the FU CK should a monk WAR have more hp than a monk MAGE? huh!!?? someone answer me [i:3ctlrp6q]THAT[/i:3ctlrp6q]![/quote:3ctlrp6q]

If you want a discussion based on common sense and reality this is not the place Aaron.

[Leaf]

Damn Aa u must be high again.

Don't think I ever said a Mo/Ma should have more hp then Mo/Wa. Nor did
I say a Mo/Wa should have less hp regen then a Mo/Ma. I did say that a
Monk PRIME should have more hp regen then Warrior Prime because its a
monk skill, or at least something very close to it. I currently have more ma
regen then Dogs is because I'm actually wearing ma regen eq while Dogs
didn't wear any. So saying that I get 15-20 ma regen seems fair? Not really...
Do the math and I don't have that much more mana regen. I have 49mr
with +11mr eq on - that its 38mr, Dogs has 31mr. Total difference??? 7mr
total hp difference? Well over 100hr.

[Rynquald]

Assuming a low-average tard heal of 200hp...

200/42=4.76

Each point of mr is effectively worth just under 5 points of hpr, if you heal yourself druing regen (not to mention the other uses for extra mana).

But when it comes down to it Will, any classo that combines a caster and noncaster in prime and second is going to be a hybrid char. It won't be able to match a ca/ca for mana/mr, and it won't be able to match a nc/nc for hp/hpr. But it will be a better caster or non-caster than a nc/nc or a ca/ca, respectively.

As always, you need to play to your char's strengths.

[Leaf]

Joey even with your calculation, its still not even close to an average char
with monk's contemplation hp regen. I'm getting more mana then a nc/nc.

I'll bring this up, since I know Aa still reads this ... I wonder how much
hp regen and ma regen Cocaine has. Since the char is a Th/Ma/Cl/Mo n
Fable is a Mo/Ma/Cl/Ne. I'm going to bet that Cocaine has almost +300hp
regen, and about the SAME ma regen naked/eq as Fable does. He will have
about 60-80hp more then me, but I will have about 25-40 mana more then
him. How is a Monk Quad going to get more hp regen with contemplation
then a Monk PRIME? Thats all i have been saying.... So Aa post ur score.

[13]

<902hp 246ma 285mv><1262683644xp>
Cocaine is a helluva drug (level: 40)
Your levels: Th: 40 Ma: 40 Cl: 40 Mo: 40 Av: 40
You are 29 years and 5 months old.
You are a citizen of Settlestone.
You are a devout worshipper of Akasha.
You are an example to us all.
You have not explored this area at all.
You've seen 25% of the world.
You have (902/902+241) hit, (246/481+74) mana and (285/324+65) movement points.
Your armor class is -2.9.
You have +11 to hit and +14 on damage.
You have 1307484 gold coins.
You have two hundred and eighty-one drachma.
You have 1262683644 unused experience points.
You have been playing for 40 days and 18 hours.
You are a member of The Dogs of War.
You are well-attuned to the channelling stratum.
Str: 18 / 93, Int: 18, Wis: 18, Dex: 18, Con: 18
You are resting.
You are affected by the following spells:
Detect Invisible
Sense Life
Infravision
Iron Skin
Grace
Rejuvenation
Stamina
Corona
Greater Mobility
Strength
Insight
Quicken
Vitality

<902hp 246ma 285mv><1262683644xp>
The following bonuses affect you:
Your speed allows you to greatly reduce the impact of blows.
Your weapon damage is only slightly increased.
You can devestate your opponents with your backstab.
You have managed a slight improvement to your offensive spells.
Your innate healing ability is starting to stir.
You have learnt the basic circling technique.
Your kick is pretty harmless.
You are starting to lower the barrier between the living and the dead.









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This is resting in the DoW vault on Lyme. You might want to get 40 tard,
get some decent equipment and play Fable for a few months before you
do anymore comparison/complaints. Just what I think.

[Leaf]

Thx Aa for this info and showing that I'm correct. Fable will have a bit less
hp and more mana then you. But even at 5x40 with some "decent regen
eq" I still will not hit 200hp regen as a prime monk. So that was a good
guess on comparing both of us, and complaints seems fair now. Since I'm
sure u don't have any hp regen on Cocaine.

Regarding playing and getting him to avatar would be nice, but the whole
wedding stuff doesn't allow me to mud much.

[13]

I think you need to be complaining about your playtime then not your
character. The power of one is a direct result of the other.

[alias]

Quit playing the when game and just post facts. Get to 5x40 cast rejuv and then rest and post what your hpr is until then I will not respond on this anymore, I know that mine went up as I leveled.

[Leaf]

[quote="alias":6h6df397]I know that mine went up as I leveled.[/quote:6h6df397]

Thx Todd, ur the only one that has replied with this info. I do know I didn't
get any from lvl14 -lvl18. But I will see if the hp regen will go up as the lvls.

Tis all I shall say, carry on ppl