Mysterious Loss of XP.

[madmax]

I just happened to notice this but it seems that I too, Like Yasix lost XP today for no explained reason. I do however keep XP in my prompt and with that I can track it to exactly when the loss occured.

Here is a cut/paste of the log.

This is _unedited_ so it is a bit spammy. Yes, I was carrying -1.57 billion xp. (I had no room for tokens in vaults.)

It appears to be associated with an Energy Drain Proc.

Madmax.

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<728hp 468+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
sc
Saving Madmax.
Saving items.

<728hp 468+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
Madmax teaching: Heal, Greater Heal <*GT*> (level: 40)
Your levels: Cl: 40 Ma: 40 Wa: 40 Ne: 40 Av: 40
You are 31 years and 16 months old.
You are a citizen of Lyme.
You are a devout worshipper of Akasha.
Your throat is starting to get dry.
You are an example to us all.
You have completely explored this area.
You've seen 73.6% of the world.
You are widely viewed as pretty trustworthy.
You have (728/890+16) hit, (469/605+47) mana and (250/250+34) movement points.
Your armor class is -8.3.
You have +13 to hit and +9 on damage.
You have 441,551 gold coins.
You have one thousand six hundred and ninety-nine drachma.
You have -1,574,359,635 unused experience points.
You have been playing for 208 days and 4 hours.
You are a member of The Golden Tigers.
You are well-attuned to the healing stratum.
Str: 18 / 40, Int: 18, Wis: 18, Dex: 18, Con: 18
You are standing.
You are protecting Dzyhar.
Doc is protecting you.
You are affected by the following spells:
Detect Evil
Detect Good
Detect Magic
Detect Invisible
Sense Life
Infravision
Darksight
Aegis
Protection from Evil
Resist Fire
A green spell shield
Iron Skin
Stamina
Corona
Greater Mobility
Vigor
Aptitude
Insight
Quicken
Vitality
Hermetic resonance (dispel magic)

<728hp 469+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
sca
You are thirsty.
You peer intently all around, and see:
a large black cat : right here
a demilich : right here
a demilich : right here
a young warlock apprentice : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
Natasha : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a Tanar'ri imp : right here
a young witch apprentice : immediately to the west

<729hp 470+16ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
You drink from a canteen. It tastes like water.

<729hp 470+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
tg 10.imp
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The imp is a small creature. Its limbs are thin and long, and its body
slightly rotund. Its head is wide and full of teeth, with a jaw capable of
opening large enough to swallow something larger than its own head. Only a
small piece of torn, dirty, green cloth covers a small portion of its wart
and boil-covered black body.
A Tanar'ri imp is in excellent condition.

<730hp 474+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
11
55
Ok.
Nothing seems to happen.

<732hp 473+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
Ok.
A Tanar'ri imp growls at you and attacks!
A Tanar'ri imp hates your guts!
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp screams in agony as red tendrils of mist infuse its body.

<693hp 466+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
Akasha answers your request!
Caerbannog the eudaemon appears in a flash of rainbow light!
Caerbannog the eudaemon starts following you.

<694hp 469+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
55
Impossible! You can't concentrate enough!

<694hp 469+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,359,635 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
You pound a Tanar'ri imp very hard.
.
A Tanar'ri imp claws you extremely hard.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp claws you extremely hard.
.
You deal a critical blow to one of a Tanar'ri imp's vital organs.
You brutally massacre a Tanar'ri imp with your pound.
You massacre a Tanar'ri imp to small fragments with your pound.
You pound a Tanar'ri imp very hard.
You hear a sudden gong.
You feel a spell unravel! Success!
A Tanar'ri imp isn't taking any more from you! it attacks!

<611hp 469+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - -1,574,355,576 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
Caerbannog the eudaemon touches you with his antlers.
You feel your wounds heal rapidly!
A large black cat launches at you in an attempt to scratch your eyes out!
A large black cat bites you very hard.

<701hp 471+47ma 250mv> +7 <indoors - [color=red:1aswikff]-1,574,355,576 XP [/color:1aswikff]- 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
You pound a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
A large black cat bites you extremely hard.
.
.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp claws you extremely hard.
A Tanar'ri imp claws you extremely hard.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
You massacre a Tanar'ri imp to small fragments with your pound.
You hear the loud crunch of bones breaking!
You massacre a Tanar'ri imp to small fragments with your pound.
You hear the loud crunch of bones breaking!
You pound a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
Your life energy is drained!
Your spell shield absorbs the damage!

<529hp 236+47ma 126mv> +7 <indoors - [color=red:1aswikff]0 XP [/color:1aswikff]- 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
off assist mad
A demilich zaps a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.

<530hp 238+47ma 127mv> +7 <indoors - 0 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
You massacre a Tanar'ri imp to small fragments with your pound.
.
.
A large black cat Massacres You to small fragments with his bite.
A demilich zaps a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
A demilich zaps a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
A demilich zaps a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
.
.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp massacres a demilich to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp claws you extremely hard.
A Tanar'ri imp massacres a demilich to small fragments with its claw.
You pound a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
. a Tanar'ri imp with your pound.
You massacre a Tanar'ri imp to small fragments with your pound.
Your spell shield fades to a faded green, but holds...

<459hp 239+47ma 128mv> +7 <indoors - 2,583 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
Caerbannog the eudaemon touches you with his antlers.
You feel your wounds heal rapidly!

<568hp 242+47ma 130mv> +7 <indoors - 2,583 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>
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You massacre a Tanar'ri imp to small fragments with your pound.
A large black cat bites you very hard.
.
A large black cat Massacres You to small fragments with his bite.
A demilich zaps a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
A demilich zaps a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
A demilich zaps a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp claws a demilich extremely hard.
A Tanar'ri imp Massacres You to small fragments with its claw.
A Tanar'ri imp massacres a demilich to small fragments with its claw.
.
A Tanar'ri imp massacres a demilich to small fragments with its claw.
You deal a critical blow to one of a Tanar'ri imp's vital organs.
You brutally massacre a Tanar'ri imp with your pound.
You pound a Tanar'ri imp extremely hard.
A Tanar'ri imp is suddenly entwined with an ethereal darkness!
Your spell shield absorbs the damage!

<466hp 243+47ma 131mv> +7 <indoors - 6,396 XP - 441,551 coins - The Witches Domain - BH>

[Yasik]

omg serious ownage
1.6B lost in a blink of an eye is not funny
but i dont remember elites or lammasu procing drain

i suppose now everybody understand that i wasnt fooling around with my reports

[jezer]

Hmm, quickly look... analysing... hmmm, ponder... time goes past...

Firstly why did score say you had NEGATIVE xp? Is this a tard thing, or is this in fact the bug...?

Second, the bug seemed to appear when "Your life energy is drained!" which is a spell right, which SUBTRACTS from mana? Maybe it's indexed by a number? Maybe the index changed? And maybe becuase your xp was negative it wiped?

Thirdly, the log says... Akasha answers your request! How come he answers your requests, but when I ask him to bring the coliseum back there is no action?

[Rynquald]

Once you go much past 2.1b xp it rolls over to -2.1b, then counts backwards. It's not a problem from a levelling/spending tokens point of view(xp just rolls back into positive once you use some), but you *really* don't want to corpse out before you use it.

I've never actually checked, but if energy drain sucks some xp away(no idea if it does, but speculating), it might have the same effect as corpsing out with negitive xp.

[Yasik]

[quote="jezer":2ox2e8kn]Akasha answers your request! How come he answers your requests, but when I ask him to bring the coliseum back there is no action?[/quote:2ox2e8kn]

This message appears when your Supplicant summoning is successfull. Something like this :

[code:2ox2e8kn]cast 'supplication' lolita
Ok.

You feel the attention of Blaster upon you!

sacrifice corpse
You sacrifice the corpse to Blaster.

Blaster answers your request!
Bubbles the lolita appears in a flash of rainbow light!
Bubbles the lolita starts following you.[/code:2ox2e8kn]

[Rynquald]

I think that was a joke Yasik

[Tap]

Since I don't have a charcter that can buy exp tokens, this might not make sense. Why not automatically get an XP token at 2 bil instead of going into the negatives? Do they cost coins?

[jezer]

yeap

[madmax]

[quote="Tap":31pxh65o]Since I don't have a charcter that can buy exp tokens, this might not make sense. Why not automatically get an XP token at 2 bil instead of going into the negatives? Do they cost coins?[/quote:31pxh65o]

Well, tokens take up one spot of the 110 item carry limit. I seem to always be at that limit and with no vault space currently, I jsut carry the xp until it gets about -200 mil, get two tokens and then buy some perma spell. And no they dont cost coins.

[quote="Yasik":31pxh65o]omg serious ownage
1.6B lost in a blink of an eye is not funny [/quote:31pxh65o]

It is closer to 2.6 billion Yasik.

[quote="Rynquald":31pxh65o]Once you go much past 2.1b xp it rolls over to -2.1b, then counts backwards. It's not a problem from a levelling/spending tokens point of view(xp just rolls back into positive once you use some), but you *really* don't want to corpse out before you use it. [/quote:31pxh65o]

Well actually that bug has been fixed. If you corpse, which I have several times in the last week, you still lose the customary 100 mil or so on each death. Your XP jsut increases closer back to -2.1 billion.

If you happen to roll over back to positive, that is the problem.. That would effectively be a loss of 4.3 billion xp.

Madmax

[Bazilus]

Comfort Madmax. Negative exp was with remarkable bug, when you die exp not lose. Nearly are year ago or so, it was fixed. Splork tell us about exp gonna be lost if save it negative....

P.S. Not sure about how long ago, but it is...

Bazilus the Crazy Python

[Bazilus]

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[Autolycos]

[quote="Bazilus":3tzw0xx8]Splork tell us about exp gonna be lost if save it negative....
P.S. Not sure about how long ago, but it is...[/quote:3tzw0xx8]

Yeah.. Brady lost a few bil xp that way.. had a full mark to -2.1+ then corpsed... POOF all gone...

sux0r

[jezer]

No coins for xp tokens! This is good news! One day I just might get a vault!

[madmax]

[quote="Autolycos":f90p008e][quote="Bazilus":f90p008e]Splork tell us about exp gonna be lost if save it negative....
P.S. Not sure about how long ago, but it is...[/quote:f90p008e]

Yeah.. Brady lost a few bil xp that way.. had a full mark to -2.1+ then corpsed... POOF all gone...

sux0r[/quote:f90p008e]

Check the log, I did not corpse. This was lost MIDFIGHT.

[Rynquald]

[quote="Jezer":1oowwq0s]No coins for xp tokens! This is good news! One day I just might get a vault![/quote:1oowwq0s]

Wait until you see what it costs to actually spend the tokens.