Druid Primes

[Toxis]

Everyone has been telling me druid prime sucks because you have practically the same stats and hp shifted as a quad druid. The only thing you really get as a druid prime is extra mana regen, and what is an extra 20 mana regen at 170 mana regen instead of a cl dr who gets 150 mana regen, pit fiend and 400 hp restores and dark mace and ariel servant... hrmmm. It does seem like druid prime shifts get a bit screwed.

Anyone else care to comment on whether they think druid primes are a waste of time vs other class primes?

-Toxis

[13]

[quote:3w4s15mi]what is an extra 20 mana regen[/quote:3w4s15mi]

Well it's like 15k worth of drachma and a lot of iolites and infernite gaunts.
Think what people go through for one point of margn alone...

Daedalus is like way way way way cooler than Annie as characters, look at
both of their ma/margn and their shifted stats if you don't believe me. Hell,
Stryx solos insane shit like the Dracolich in sub palace..without any followers
or songs or any of that gravy.

[Mosaix]

Having been playing an avatar prime cleric with aerial servant, dork mace, 400hp restores, 100ish regen, pit fiend, I cant solo half of what a good druid can. Aerial servant goes down in about 1-2 rounds or less depending on a good mob you are trying to kill. Buys you about one round of time to toss some bolts if you even have mage in classo.

Sorry Brad its just not there.

[Rynquald]

I think the point is that druid basically gets mregen as it's prime ability. The extra mregen is, as 13 says, valuable, but where people get the wrong idea about druid prime is assuming that it's forms should be directly stronger than druid 2/3/4.

Extra mregen has the effect of speeding up shifted runs, allowing a higher shift to regen ratio. But if you're willing to put in the regen time, well, I can pretty easily solo dracolich in sub palace with a ma/dr too.

So druid prime comes down to regen imho, and if you'd rather have [insert non-druid prime skill here], or insanely fast regen.

[Yinao]

Do I count as a druid?

[Avatar]

I expect there's one person telling you that druid prime sucks, and not 'everyone'. I think that person is incorrect.

I'm happy with my druid prime. My only complaints are small annoying things, which I wish would be fixed or changed but never are. Either way, they don't prevent me from playing or enjoying the char.

[Toxis]

I wish that while you were shifted certain spells wouldn't fall, strength, stone/iron/petrified armor... Seems insane that you have to shift back and use shitloads of mana just to recast stoneskin or strength spell.

Or maybe the problem is the mana cost to shift into the form.

Anyway, the druids nice for regen. You are right, it's not bad.

Another thing, and I already have rapid shift, but it would be nice if someone looked into moon and rapid shift and discussed whether or not it should be lowered a tad. The cost for those spells is crazy.

-Toxis

[brady]

[quote="Mosaix":2xwlsh4o]Having been playing an avatar prime cleric [/quote:2xwlsh4o]

Mosaix is a cleric?

[Mosaix]

Its a shocker, i know.

[Medios]

The question to ask is why Krok, Avatar or Choong can solo more than Mosaix?

[Mosaix]

Why would you toss that at me mike?
Im never said a word about other clerics solo abilites, or that I can or can not solo.

The mentioned cleric primes are excellent clerics that either dont play anymore or play other chars. Thanks for making my point.