If you want to visit China, do it soon :)

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Actually, I hear the huge underground complex beneath Denver airport is the place to visit. And very,very soon

[Aleksey]

Check out chinese cars, in couple years thay made huge step
Was realy surprices whan found in internet big group of chinese companies with wide model lines.

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I am in China now, spending a week and a half in China near Shanghai. China is an interesting story, and a remarkable place to visit.

People have been talking for years about importing Chinese cars to the US. It will happen, soon, because anyone importing cars will make a very large profit. Cars are cheap to make in China, but the prices they sell for (in China) are also less than in the US. If you ship cars from China, you still have the lower manufacturing costs but you can set the price much higher than they sell in China. Of course there are design changes required to meet US safety and environment restrictions, but there will still be a large amount of profit to be made in the next 10 years. Beyond 10 years, the profits will shrink as average prices in the US fall and manufacturing costs in China rise.

The domestic auto market in Asia is also important. There are a lot of cars made here and sold here. This year Asia will overtake the US as the largest auto market, with Asia sales estimated at 21 million cars and US sales estimated at 16 million.

Speaking as a "westerner", it feels odd to visit China and see so many car models that I am not familiar with. It may be possible that most people in the US have never heard of the most popular car in the world. I don't think this is true now, but it may be true in the next couple years.

Charles

PS. Greetings from Shanghai!

[Alberich]

speaking of chinese cars

[url:1kh4zu21]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWy_fASSiQ&mode=related&search=[/url:1kh4zu21]

i'd actually rather hit something with my motorcycle, i think... probably safer.

[Roadrunr]

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Dude I could be wrong, but China has a lot more technology then the US.
Regarding the 1.2 trillion... I think it was all spent on the war.
China always comes out with the latest and greatest stuff compared to any
other country. But anyways it was fun [/quote:3exquuuh]

no, actually, China reverse engineers all the cool stuff that OTHER countries come up with, then they sell it at a lower price because they build it cheaply (and the Walmart society is too stupid to figure out that if you buy quality you buy something and it works, if you buy junk, you're buying another one in 6 months.

[Roadrunr]

[quote="Aleksey":51a7l4x2]Check out chinese cars, in couple years thay made huge step
Was realy surprices whan found in internet big group of chinese companies with wide model lines.[/quote:51a7l4x2]

right, they made huge strides by copying from other companies because for any car to be sold in China, the manufacturer has to agree to share technology. The 'Big 3' in the US have been involved in this thinking that China will save them but ultimately, it will probably be their end.

[Aleksey]

To Alberich: Alberich i agree with you if look for car in terms of safty.
Look at thise case:
Any imported car cost in Russia = original price+25% tax( even with that 30% of chinise models cheaper than our cars, and defenetly cheaper than European or American)
Few weeks ago i seen garage advertisment sale in Moscow (bloody hell thay asked $25000 for it, usual garage, nothing exlusive). If buying good car sure you will go for garage ( and we not earning more than in USA or in Europe). All that lead to limited choice. Buy chinese car, drop it near house and dont care about other extra expences.

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China Enacting a High-Tech Plan to Track People

[url:30g5iry0]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/business/worldbusiness/12security.html?_r=1&ref=asia&oref=slogin[/url:30g5iry0]

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[b:2ytwloi8][u:2ytwloi8] Dirty chopsticks picked up in new China scare[/u:2ytwloi8][/b:2ytwloi8]

BEIJING (Reuters) - A Beijing factory recycled used chopsticks and sold up to 100,000 pairs a day without any form of disinfection, a newspaper said on Wednesday, the latest in a string of Chinese food and product safety scares.

The owner, identified only by his surname Wu, had no license to sell the goods, said he had sold 100,000 pairs a day when business was good.

China has said the world should have faith in the "made-in-China" label and that a spate of product recalls has been unfair, biased and politically motivated.



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[size=18] Police punished after lovers fined for a hug[\size]

BEIJING (Reuters) - China has punished three policemen for detaining and fining two young lovers 5,000 yuan ($660) for hugging in public on the Chinese version of Valentine's Day

Police in China have previously taken a dim view of public displays of affection. Last October, volunteers offering "free hugs" in a shopping street in Beijing were hauled away for questioning.

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[size=200:3l3dzt2j]Chinese military hacked into Pentagon[/size:3l3dzt2j]

The Chinese military hacked into a Pentagon computer network in June in the most successful cyber attack on the US defence department, say American ­officials.

Current and former officials have told the Financial Times an internal investigation has revealed that the incursion came from the People’s Liberation Army.

The Chinese foreign ministry said the government opposed and forbade “any criminal acts undermining computer systems, including hacking”.
“We have explicit laws and regulations in this regard,” said Jiang Yu, from the ministry. “Hacking is a global issue and China is frequently a victim.”

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[size=150:2wiv0o7w]Egg-walking man pulls car with ears[/size:2wiv0o7w]

A Chinese man has managed to pull a car while walking on eggs without breaking a single egg.Not only did he pull the car 20 metres, he actually did it with his ears!The 38-year-old probably has the strangest talent ever seen, but he sure drew a big crowd while he was pulling the car in Dehui, Jinli.
The onlookers were astonished by the man's performance. Zhang says he started learning the stunt when he was only 8 years old. Another amazing thing this Chinese can do is pick up a 25 kg bicycle with his mouth while, of course, standing on eggs.


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We can't figure out what his talents are good for, but they sure are amazing

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[color=red:1xtz2r2e][size=150:1xtz2r2e]Dog adopts piglet[/size:1xtz2r2e][/color:1xtz2r2e]

A dog in China has adopted a piglet, nursing it as if it were her own puppy.
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Huihu, from Chongqing city, adopted the piglet after her five pups were stillborn."She was very depressed for one week, then one night came home with a tiny black piglet following her," says owner, Lao Yi.Lao Yi says that ever since, Huihu has reared the piglet as if it were her own puppy, nursing her and taking her around.The two have become celebrities in the neighbourhood, attracting many visitors, according to the Chongqing Business Papers.Lao Yi says that over the course of one month, the piglet has already put on 2kg in weight, drinking only dog milk.

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[size=200:3qoxty70]China: Orders to use death penalty less[/size:3qoxty70]

BEIJING - China has ordered judges to use the death penalty more sparingly by showing leniency for murderers who cooperate with authorities and white collar criminals who help recoup their ill-gotten gains, the government said Friday.



The order is the latest effort by Beijing to reform capital punishment in China, which is believed to carry out more court-ordered executions than the rest of the world combined."Capital punishment should only be given to an extremely small number of serious offenders," said a statement posted Friday on the Supreme Court's Web site explaining the new order. The order was issued to provincial courts on Wednesday, it said, without releasing the full text.When possible, the statement said, judges should sentence an offender to death but with a two-year reprieve — a penalty often commuted to life in prison if they behave well in jail.
The order said crimes of passion, such as the murder of a family member or neighbor, should not automatically result in the death penalty if compensation is paid to the victim's family. Those convicted of economic crimes should also receive lighter penalties if they help authorities recover the money, it said.China regularly executes people for economic, nonviolent and political crimes.On Tuesday, a former official with the Agriculture Bank of China was executed for taking bribes and embezzling bank funds worth about $2 million, according to local media.In July, the country's former top drug regulator was executed for taking millions of dollars in bribes to approve substandard medicines, including an antibiotic that killed at least 10 people.China doesn't officially release death sentence figures.Amnesty International says China executed at least 1,770 people in 2005 — about 80 percent of the world's total. But the true number is thought to be many times higher.While the Supreme Court order called for greater restraint in ordering executions, it still upheld the use of the death penalty as a deterrent."We must hand down and carry out immediate capital punishment in regard to heinous cases, with ironclad evidence that result in serious social damage," it said.An amendment to China's capital punishment law, enacted in November, requires the Supreme People's Court to approve all death sentences, ending a 23-year-old practice of giving the final review to provincial courts.The change followed reports of executions of wrongly convicted people and criticism that lower courts arbitrarily impose the death sentence.