by Ezekiel » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:07 am
Gorka,
Though I agree allowing some blast benefit to make up for warriors outblasting may be made in lieu of blanketing second wind..I think your reasoning against opening up second wind is somehow unfounded. Just because one of your prime skills gets opened up (and likely at a greater cost) to other classes does not make you less powerful. That is only a comparative illusion in your mind. If you think that one skill basically shifts your whole character from strong prime into useless support..it shows you just how overpowered and unbalanced that skill is and needs to be addressed as such.
I'll give you an example...say, hypothetically, all classes had frostbolt opened to them at a higher mana cost. That doesn't affect the fact that I have a whole set of spellbonus and saves eq and higher caps for both to make my bolts still stronger. It also would only make an incremental difference for non-primes using it, as frostbolt is not that much greater in base power than firewind (especially with all the heat and sun houses and lack of winters). The mana cost would likely lead them to continue to use firewind. The difference in the strength of the spell does not go down for me, and it minimally increases the power of those around me. That is balance.
Now take a skill like heavy armor proficiency...same thing. You could open up endless ac to say mages, but likely goes against their play style and they wouldn't be able to incorporate enough ac and maintain a decent level of spellbonus and spell dam which their chars are more geared for. It wouldn't make any difference to your power, since you will innately be structured more for ac anyway and hit your restricts faster even...and those who newly had it opened up to them likely will only see minimal, if any, benefit in chasing the max ac beyond what was previously allowed for their classo. That is balance.
With second wind, that is not the case. The use of it by warrior primes doesn't take a whole eq set to manufacture strength over other classes in or use stat caps over other classes in. It allows you to use any secondary skill (order lag, winds, shifting, strike, anything) and do it faster than a prime can, simply by learning the second wind skill. If you opened it up, even at a greater cost to non-primes, they would likely use it to affect the tactics/skills they should more likely be using faster as primes (but you are using at an increased rate). This is where I think your objection comes in, as there is no measureable comparative difference at the point which it would be changed, even if at an increased mv rate, since the skill can be used on any spell/skill. That shows you how unbalanced this skill is.
Do you think you should strike faster than a monk, shift faster than a druid, order faster than a necro, blast faster than a mage, all because you read a book at lev 32 prime? Sorry if you based char design on an overpowered skill, but if it is to remain..it's only sensible to fix what's broken and at least try to come up with a means for balance where you're not outdoing primes at their own class skills.
-Zeke
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Ezekiel on Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:21 am, edited 8 times in total.