by Yasik » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:20 pm
+ Quest difficulty and reward must be in correlation; recently I did two quests - to subdue penguin king (30k mob) and to bring 30 (!) ice trolls corpses to the quester. The trolls attack in packs, nearly killed me (1200 hp, -11 AC, with 3 undead pets assisting (soak damage)), but both quests have 2 (two) drachma reward. Its either poor design or mocking players.
+ Quests must be ***working***.
This is example of what I consider NOT working quest:
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Map Room
Exits: South
An ancient globe of the world rests on an oaken stand.
A large man is here looking over some navigational charts.
Captain Morgan glows with a bright light!
<1209hp 533ma 395mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 291,447 indoors Clipper
ask Captain about ogre_costume
You ask Captain Morgan about 'ogre_costume'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Ogre costumes? Oh yeah I mean I have never heard of such a thing. At '
Captain Morgan tells you 'least not without payment up front, that is. '
<1209hp 539ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 291,447 indoors Clipper
give 5000 coins Captain
The 'grace' spell on you is about to wear off.
Ok.
<1209hp 551ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 286,447 indoors Clipper
give 5000 coins Captain
Ok.
<1209hp 553ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 281,447 indoors Clipper
give 5000 coins Captain
Ok.
<1209hp 555ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 276,447 indoors Clipper
ask Captain about ogre_costume
You ask Captain Morgan about 'ogre_costume'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Ogre costumes? Oh yeah I mean I have never heard of such a thing. At '
Captain Morgan tells you 'least not without payment up front, that is. '
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 276,447 indoors Clipper
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Map Room
Maps of all shapes and sizes hang from the walls of this dimly lit room.
A large atlas lies open on a table that stands in the center of the room
and several maps and navigational charts have fallen to the floor. A globe
stands in the far corner.
Exits: South
An ancient globe of the world rests on an oaken stand.
A large man is here looking over some navigational charts.
Captain Morgan glows with a bright light!
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 276,447 indoors Clipper
ask Morgan about quests
You ask Captain Morgan about 'quests'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Sorry, I don't know anything about that.'
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 276,447 indoors Clipper
give 10000 coins morgan
Ok.
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
ask morgan about quests
You ask Captain Morgan about 'quests'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Sorry, I don't know anything about that.'
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
ask morgan about ogre_costume
You ask Captain Morgan about 'ogre_costume'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Ogre costumes? Oh yeah I mean I have never heard of such a thing. At '
Captain Morgan tells you 'least not without payment up front, that is. '
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
Josiah tells you 'might need to say lormak to him'
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
t morgan lormak
You tell Captain Morgan 'lormak'
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
ask morgan about ogre_costume
You ask Captain Morgan about 'ogre_costume'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Ogre costumes? Oh yeah I mean I have never heard of such a thing. At '
Captain Morgan tells you 'least not without payment up front, that is. '
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
The ship lurches as it comes to an abrupt stop against the docks.
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
say lormak
You say 'lormak'
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
ask morgan about ogre_costume
You ask Captain Morgan about 'ogre_costume'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Ogre costumes? Oh yeah I mean I have never heard of such a thing. At '
Captain Morgan tells you 'least not without payment up front, that is. '
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
t morgan Lormak
You tell Captain Morgan 'Lormak'
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
say Lormak
You say 'Lormak'
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
ask Morgan about ogre_costume
You ask Captain Morgan about 'ogre_costume'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Ogre costumes? Oh yeah I mean I have never heard of such a thing. At '
Captain Morgan tells you 'least not without payment up front, that is. '
<1209hp 565ma 396mv> >> - << -2 -11.0 150,521,593 266,447 indoors Clipper
ask Morgan about lormak
You ask Captain Morgan about 'lormak'.
Captain Morgan tells you 'Sorry, I don't know anything about that.'
===============================================LOG END
At this point it is pretty unclear to me what to do next, since quest mob refuses to cooperate and the quest progress is stuck.
The quest design is poor. It forces players to seek answers on channels, but it is forbidden to share quest info on public channel.
It is unprofessional and lame quickie trash, it leads to frustration and annoyance, players lose hope and abandon.
I strongly condemn approach like that. And it always was like this since S3. Better not to do at all.