looting idea

[Toxis]

I would really like to see several modes of looting. It has always been a big pain in the ass, and I really love the idea of need or greed, and leader only looting.
Modes:
1: free for all - anyone can loot
2: leader control - only the leader can loot for 1 minute, then anyone can loot
3: need or greed - you have 1 minute to to type need, greed or pass. If someone types need they get it, if multiple people type need then it randoms and the winner gets it. If no one types need, it moves to the greeds (which is everyone on this mud heh). And it works the same way, it randoms among them. If no one types greed and/or everyone has passed on the eq, then the eq stays in the corpse. Upon winning the roll, the eq automatically goes in the person's inventory. If no one loots the eq, anyone can loot the eq after 1 minute is up.

I think if these changes are put ingame it could help a lot of eq bitching that goes on. You're still gonna get people that are going to need when they don't need it, but leaders can remember those few and kick them out of groups. And just cuz you run need or greed, it doesn't mean that you still can't call eq in groups.

[jezer]

A greedy man does not see himself as greedy, he NEEDS everything.

I think this idea is more in the interests of Brad, than it is slothmud.

Can the imms also please implement code where everyone is nice... thank you...

[Toxis]

I love people who post stuff like this who never lead.

-Toxis

[jezer]

[quote="Toxis":1bojj0ig]I love people who post stuff like this who never lead.

-Toxis[/quote:1bojj0ig]

Erm, you tanked a few of my mystica groups before I left the country...

But if your wanting to put in the line that your bigger and more awesome on slothmud than I am etc etc, your right. Don't hold everyone else ransom to it though will you...

[Toxis]

I'm sorry Jezer, do you still play? Who are you on slothmud, Zuzu?

-Brad

[Acedia]

*applaud jezer*
Guess we forgot that only Brad and Zuzu know anything about sloth.

need/greed inserts a false sense of 'choice' and can potentially bog groups down even more. Like Jezer said, folks who are by nature greedy would roll need anyways, other folks be darned. The folks who continually roll greed will see that their rolls, despite respecting the system, are always superseded by the need roll, so they'll start rolling need just so they can actually get something. We all 'need' hex tokens.

To stick to your system, you would have to stop for your proposed 1 minute after each pop, just to give everyone a fair 'chance' to roll or pass on the item. It takes just one afk person to ruin it, since if he doesn't respond fast enough, you'll have to keep waiting until he does respond; If you don't wait for his/her input, then you're being 'unfair'. How is that faster/less frustrating?

I'm a proponent of "looters off, let leader loot all and decide what to do with it during regen."

I can't possibly see how much bickering there can be in BH exp. The three, four pieces of eq even remotely worth calling are usually already gjob'd, so that's that. And bickering doesn't really exist in eq groups since it's that unspoken agreement not to bicker that allows the group to function at all.

People should learn to play sloth instead of whining about every little inconvenience. That and stop trying to make Sloth WoW.

[Toxis]

Wow, it's amazing how stupid people are.

We want a group mud ... MAKE SHIT HARDER ON THE LEADER.
We want a group mud ... ONLY GIVE HEALS TO 2 OF 8 CLASSES.
We want a group mud ... MAKE ONLY 1 OF 8 CLASSES ABLE TO TANK DECENTLY.
We want a group mud ... BASH CLERIC IN BACK ROW SO HE CAN'T HEAL THE TANK!

Wait... did I forget anything? STFU Lead some or get the **** out of the way.

-Brad

[Acedia]

Calm down. It's just a game.

[Toxis]

I'm sorry, do you still play sloth? And when was the last time you led?

[Toxis]

This is the shit that burns my ass. I'm trying to put things into game that make it easier on leader. And the bullshit people who don't lead talk crap and put comments like this on the crier. I swear to god, it's people like you that make me wanna bitchslap someone. If you don't want to help sloth, stfu and let us help it. I see 4 leaders on sloth, and you two aren't it, so stfu and suck my toxis. I say if you're not a leader, and don't lead often, don't say a ****** word, you haven't earned the right.

-Brad

[Acedia]

yes i still play sloth
last time i led a big group?
probably a month

Stopped playing regularly for a bit so I could contribute to sloth by finishing this area, but I guess since I haven't led today I 'haven't earned the right' to say anything.

True, things may seem tougher on the leader, but it's largely because despite being a few months in, sloth is still in the infant stages of this incarnation. Not everyone has a -12 tank. Not everyone can heal 350hp endlessly. So BH exp can't be run 100% continuously. It shouldn't since that leaves room to grow. The system isn't designed to antagonize leaders. I would say the entire front/back row change was meant to help reduce prot chain setup time, and the leader gold is a huge incentive.

True, strong heals are only given to two classes. But now, everyone can potentially heal, since we have all eight classes. So maybe everyone didn't start a cleric prime or choose it as secondary. They fulfill other roles. This seems to be in favor of a group mud.

True, only one class can seriously tank. As they were designed to do. Should everyone be able to tank? When I played a -11 tank and was supplanted by a necro prime, that didn't sit right with me at all. Actually, I don't really know where you're going with this.

True, mobs bash. So they pick you. 1 person out of a group of what, 30? 40? Does that bashing cause the entire group to wipe? 50% of the group? 25? I have yet to see it happen even once in your group. I understand it's frustrating to be on the receiving end; I've had my fair share of deaths to rescue lag or bashes, but it's nothing I would call game-ending.

You have done some astounding things given the relatively scarce resources at hand. I'm eagerly awaiting what you will be able to do, heck, what all the nascent leaders will be able to do once folks get bigger. Until then, please, please stop comparing this to endtimes s3 or another game.

True, this is a group mud. So please stop trying to do everything yourself, including being the only voice heard.

Stopping this, since I have no interest in being your punching bag.

[Dragoth]

I dont understand why you people are being so bashful of a simple idea to let the leader be able to choose the looter ?

Why does everything have to turn into drama ?

[Bazilus]

Relax ppl, it just game... But good game. Old loots system have only one problem with personal items, nothing else...

P.S. And "No" i dont play Sloth for now... Cya around.

Bazilus the Crazy Python

[Mosaix]

Im a bit busy to be able to mud right now. Otherwise the game can be fun when I do play.


Less crying will fix most of the problems that sloth has.

[Medios]

I would think Brad would not be so loud considering he has an immortal. And since when did immortals get to trash the players and talk shit openly. I got a pretty lengthy discussion pasted into notepad where I was also verbally assaulted. Why would anyone want to play or follow someone who is constantly attacking ideas and/or comments. Hell Brad even told me I don't lead and to stfu and I probably know more about Sloth than he ever will. I just think it is non productive to get on here and talk a bunch of trash about bitch slapping someone, give me a damn break. The only thing Brad is going to "knock out" is a 12 pack.

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