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Postby Messiaen » Tue May 08, 2007 1:34 am

Mosaix, these are my rose colored glasses:
[quote:1jqwg9lc]But then again, is it the player that benefitted the group, or the classo? If the char would've made the same impact (or more) if someone else was playing it, then his usefulness is just limited to his spells, etc. It's when someone thinks/helps outside of his char does he/she deserve a high reward. It's not hard typing HEAL or RAISE DEAD, however indispensible they are.[/quote:1jqwg9lc]
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Postby Ezekiel » Tue May 08, 2007 1:50 am

1. people can be tired of the bitching all they want...til it is them who gets shafted when a leader abandons his said system midstream...as i said before...this bitching would not be here if the said system from the start had been followed. i completely agree with mosaix.

2. as my earlier statement...what makes one set of eyes better than 40, such as in messaien's case...messaien led one mini just like verin and avi...where was their hand out from atwell for 'special work'? Funny how Messaien is the only one that felt the need to toot his own horn to justify the handing of his quest eq. Always the guilty that speak the most.

3. i'm so tired of people saying the system has always been this way...stop bitching, it's not gonna change.

Examples in contradiction: slavery, pthieving, etc...nuff said. These posts have yielded suggestions on how to make this flawed system more manageable. Maybe take a look at those instead of telling everyone to stfu, Nazis.
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Postby Messiaen » Tue May 08, 2007 1:56 am

[quote="Ezekiel":36jlym4p]1. people can be tired of the bitching all they want...til it is them who gets shafted when a leader abandons his said system midstream...as i said before...this bitching would not be here if the said system from the start had been followed. i completely agree with mosaix.[/quote:36jlym4p]

Have you ever led anything with over 10 ppl in it?

[quote:36jlym4p]2. as my earlier statement...what makes one set of eyes better than 40, such as in messaien's case...messaien led one mini just like verin and avi...where was their hand out for 'special work'?[/quote:36jlym4p]

I still have my logfile, its just 5.5 MB, want me to send it to you so you could figure out how the quest looked from my point of view?

Conversations like that only make me not want to have any business with some of the ppl.
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Postby Ezekiel » Tue May 08, 2007 2:00 am

I love how you assume just from your perspective that you did more than other 2 leaders who led minis...doesn't matter how many were under you anyway...there was a said system and your eq hand out came by defying it. A more noble soul would have hesitation being granted eq in such a way. Your 5.5 gigs means nothing...why don't you take a look at how well you'd done without clerics...look at their files and then tell me you deserve a hand out, egotist.
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Postby Messiaen » Tue May 08, 2007 2:04 am

Lets get it straight - Atwell didn't say he rewarded me for leading miniq.
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Postby Ezekiel » Tue May 08, 2007 2:07 am

Ezekiel wrote:
1. people can be tired of the bitching all they want...til it is them who gets shafted when a leader abandons his said system midstream...as i said before...this bitching would not be here if the said system from the start had been followed. i completely agree with mosaix.

Messaien wrote:
Have you ever led anything with over 10 ppl in it?


You were the one that said it...not me
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Postby Messiaen » Tue May 08, 2007 2:09 am

[quote="Ezekiel":3oz04qo5]I love how you assume just from your perspective that you did more than other 2 leaders who led minis...doesn't matter how many were under you anyway...there was a said system and your eq hand out came by defying it. A more noble soul would have hesitation being granted eq in such a way. Your 5.5 gigs means nothing...why don't you take a look at how well you'd done without clerics...look at their files and then tell me you deserve a hand out, egotist.[/quote:3oz04qo5]

This is only a good illustration to what I said earlier.

The only hesitation I had was cause a few ppl that, in my opinion, did very well too didn't get the same reward. Not cause there are ppl who do the least job and claim the high rewards.
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Postby Ezekiel » Tue May 08, 2007 2:12 am

funny how the tone changes when you start hearing the patronizing tone of your earlier posts...spin machine central...is that Tony Snow at the keys?
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Postby Messiaen » Tue May 08, 2007 2:14 am

[quote="Ezekiel":19x3be4i]Ezekiel wrote:
1. people can be tired of the bitching all they want...til it is them who gets shafted when a leader abandons his said system midstream...as i said before...this bitching would not be here if the said system from the start had been followed. i completely agree with mosaix.

Messaien wrote:
Have you ever led anything with over 10 ppl in it?


You were the one that said it...not me[/quote:19x3be4i]

Okay, how do you conclude that I assume I led miniq's better than others?

The reason I asked was actually to point out that leading 60 men group is a great job itself and you can't blame Atwell for anything after he did it. You didn't give a straight answer tho.
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Postby Ezekiel » Tue May 08, 2007 2:16 am

Wow...did you take a class on spinning? Funny that you wouldn't include that in the previous post if that were the truth...nice delayed save.
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Postby Messiaen » Tue May 08, 2007 2:19 am

[quote="Ezekiel":1sr2kekq]Wow...did you take a class on spinning? Funny that you wouldn't include that in the previous post if that were the truth...nice delayed save.[/quote:1sr2kekq]

I don't understand that joke, english isn't my native, sorry.

I thought it was clear to anybody who read the whole thread carefully. *shrug*

Can't see any reasons to keep this conversation going.
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Postby Weasel » Tue May 08, 2007 2:22 am

Please chill out - keep it up and we may not get any more quests.
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Postby Alberich » Tue May 08, 2007 11:02 am

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Postby Autolycos » Tue May 08, 2007 11:51 am

As always,

We can count on Adam to bring things back into perspective! 8)
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Postby 13 » Tue May 08, 2007 2:47 pm

This is like watching the special olympics.
The perfect blend of poetry and meanness..
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