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Postby alias » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:12 pm

+3 more damroll innate. theres your more damage for prime, how many more times do we have to say it. Nab and Dogs splork way bigger shit than I can, some of it is because they are great players and some of it is because they are prime. there is more to the monk class than damroll. While yes I wish there was a double deathtouch I don't hold any hope that it comes about. I only splorked a 5 mil mob cause u were bitchin' it make much more sense for me to tank dot or et for a stabber and make way better xp/hour. Wanna up you splorking ability take a bard w/u who knows what they are doing, add a blaster and your run could be endless.

I'm done w/ this conversation here. if u want to hear more of my bitching ask in game.

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Postby Leaf » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:46 pm

Come on Todd, u know I don't have my usual mudding time frame since
I'm back to work.

Speaking of bitching, weres my whiner!!! :)

Relax Yo!
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Postby 13 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:11 pm

i think dogs is rolling with a freakin great helm
that might help the 9.0 thing but you may be able
to pick it up elsewhere i havent looked
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Postby Weasel » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:45 pm

Ok that's it. Tanks need some attention. I want things set so I just have to type 'target mobname' and the facker drops dead on the spot out of fear. and it must also load whatever I dam well tell it to.

To rehash:
tell mobname load 10,000 drachma.
target mobname.
get all corpse.

sounds fair to me. :twisted:
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Postby Alberich » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:49 pm

only if it's a prime skill!
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Postby strider » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:55 pm

this is why i really didn't want to play the "realistic" card when i talked about lag for gripping. yes leaf i spose if you have a mob pinned down it wouldn't hit you as often. of course when you chop 7 limbs off a mob it probly shouldn't hit you as often either. i'ld also like to see you put a black dragon into that choke hold, or any other mob larger than a human. just be happy you can still choke that chicken!

and yes monk primes do more dmg than non primes. vaire has more hand dmg than nab (mostly from quest items or thief dmg slots) and nab still splorks larger mobs than vaire can. and as dogs stated -9ac at max dmg for a monk is a tad bit better than -5 for a thief runnin max dmg. though if you sacrafice lots of +hit and wear the pretty holy eq you can hit -7. still a nice difference.

i think what we've learned from this string is you have stab envy and may as well just make that thief. or have the best of both worlds and make a mo/th. get that nice big hand dmg and a big focus stab, you'll be unstoppable!!!
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Postby Leaf » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:40 pm

Dogs have ac-9 due to quest eq and his nice nat str.
Does Vaire have 18/100 without any str eq? I believe he/she should have
better then ac-5.

Maybe I do have stab envy with my th/wa and want to see my Mo/Ma do
some good dam.
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Postby Medios » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:14 pm

Medios runs with 27 damage and -8 , +60 spelldamage. Why we crying about thieves again?
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Postby Leaf » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:01 am

I'm not crying about thiefs, but a little sad about monks :)
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Postby strider » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:07 am

well this is the way vaire rolls:

<used as light> a set of brass balls..It has a soft glowing aura!
<worn on finger> Ring of the Assassin..It has a soft glowing aura!
<worn on finger> a man's diamond ring..It has a soft glowing aura!
<worn on shoulders> Shattered Bone Shoulder Guards..It has a soft glowing aura! (with a red
minidemon brooch attached to it)
<worn around neck> a silver spider brooch
<worn on body> a suit of skeletal armor..It has a soft glowing aura! (with a pretty little
bow attached to it)
<worn on head> the mask of the great thief..It has a soft glowing aura! (with a
reddish-colored glass eye attached to it)
<worn on legs> titanium greaves..It emits a faint humming sound! (with a polished
spectrolite charm attached to it)
<worn on feet> a pair of sharkskin boots..It emits a faint humming sound!
<worn on hands> a set of moonstone claws of midnight..It has a soft glowing aura! (with a
large diamond stud attached to it)
<worn on arms> sleeves of molten lava..It has a soft glowing aura! (with a leather
phylactery attached to it)
<worn as shield> a large ancient greatshield..It emits a faint humming sound!
<worn about body> a gnomish travelling cloak
<worn about waist> a belt of striking
<worn around wrist> bracer of spinning razors..It emits a faint humming sound!
<worn around wrist> bracer of spinning razors..It emits a faint humming sound!
<wielded> the ebony kris of darkness..It emits a faint humming sound!
<held> the scarab of destruction..It emits a faint humming sound! (with the Iolite
of Omah attached to it)
<1006hp 335ma 390mv +22 +29>

the 22 is +hit w/out grace up, the 29 is dmg. nats are 18/64 18 18 18 18 but w/ two -dex items it's fun stuff. ac in this is -5.1 w/ iron up. have fun. like i said, dropping about +7 to hit and wearing some holy eq i can run at a whopping -7, yippee! and trust me, with the change to stab i wanna keep that +hit eq on.
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Postby brady » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:35 am

nice balls.
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Postby Tap » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:50 am

Where the hell did you get all that drachma, hmmm?
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Postby 13 » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:13 am

tap you're a newb
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Postby van » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:24 pm

I'm tired of people talking about Vaire, Medios, Autolycos, Dogs, Nab... what about us poor people who have no drachma and no quest eq? :)

So just for comparison, here's the eq of a stabber too lazy to cycle drachma who is DECIDEDLY not as awesome as the above.

You are using:
<used as light> A Squirming Hamster in a Cardboard Tube..It has a soft glowing aura!
<worn on finger> a hamster collar
<worn on finger> a man's diamond ring..It glows violet!..It has a soft glowing aura!
<worn on shoulders> shadow pauldrons..It glows violet! (with a red minidemon brooch attached to it)
<worn around neck> a long grey cloak..It glows violet! (with a red minidemon brooch attached to it)
<worn on body> a suit of skeletal armor..It glows violet!..It has a soft glowing aura! (with a pretty little bow attached to it)
<worn on head> a prison guard helmet
<worn on legs> titanium greaves..It emits a faint humming sound!
<worn on feet> black demonskin boots..It glows violet!..It emits a faint humming sound!
<worn on hands> a pair of silver gauntlets
<worn on arms> sleeves of molten lava..It has a soft glowing aura! (with a leather phylactery attached to it)
<worn as shield> a large ancient greatshield..It glows violet!..It emits a faint humming sound!
<worn about body> Cloak of Specialization..It emits a faint humming sound!
<worn about waist> Tooled Girdle of Ogre Kings
<worn around wrist> a black opal bracelet..It glows violet!
<worn around wrist> a black opal bracelet..It glows violet!
<wielded> the Black Kris of Power..It glows violet!..It emits a faint humming sound!
<held> the scarab of destruction..It emits a faint humming sound!

965hp 305ma 415mv, +25 hit (with grace and valor, +21 w/o), +25 dam.
Nat stats are 18/66 16 13 18 18, so don't need any +str eq to hit 18/100. Haven't bought any stats yet.
AC in this gear is -6.2. I can hit -8 at +24 damage, -9 at +21 (iirc). Of course, I lose a lot of +hit.

I only just got deathtouch (stingy mobs), but at +25 hand dam I've done ok in CK. Give me another 1900 drachma and a diaphanous gown and I'll do better.

Btw, I've been meaning to swap out that hamster collar, but it just goes so well with my 5x40 lite. :)

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Postby Modello » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:27 pm

I'm not sure where the info that primes have +3more dam than nonprimes comes from.... unless someone has access to the code. However, +3dam would equate to about 30hp more......

In my opinion thats a pretty pathetic difference..... grip for 530 vs. 500? C'mon.

Perhaps prime monk should get an xtra multiplier... not +3dam.
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