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Postby Tap » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:32 am

I really gotta go to bed *yawn*
Oh Juggles, if it was just being reported about Osama, I'd have to agree with you however, when the words come out of his own mouth and those of his wife..and those of his running mate..and those of his preacher...and those of his mentor and so forth and so own....


Oh yeah...those tax breaks keep creeping further down..first if you made under 300k you were ok.. then 250k...then 200k...now its around 125k....

It's one thing not to believe a thing you read and only half what you hear but when the person himself tells you directly what he is going to do and you the follower shrug it off and say..nah he won't do that to me...well who is the retarded one now?
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Postby *juggleblood* » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:38 am

My dad and I own a construction company in Indpls. I do tons of plumbing, roofing, carpentry, electrical, etc. The reason we don't hire anyone is 2 reasons: the labor pool is terrible (alcoholics and crackheads), and we can't afford accident liability on them because the health care system is so messed up. If we could grow our business to where I was making 250k a year I don't think the tax issue would sink us. I can't imagine its much different for that fool on tv. Taxes aren't causing this recession/depression and eliminating Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy shouldn't even be the issue of the day. It should be a given that we can't afford those tax cuts when we've just doubled or tripled the national debt bailing out corrupt/incompetent bankers and stock brokers and waging a fools errand in Iraq. If the wealthy aren't going to pay for it, who is? me? You'll have to rip the money out of my ex-wife's cold fingers. I just don't understand how the reality on planet Weasel is any different.

edit: I'm done, I'd rather go play with the gremlin supplicant procs. If anyone has any fun ideas for it, email me.
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Postby Weasel » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:48 am

I agree that the health insurance situation is insane, and am well aware that someone in your position in particular has a big issue with employing, because even hiring independent contractors that would normally be responsible for their own tax and health liabilities, construction is one of the few places where you can still be held liable for him injuring himself (despite usual agency laws) because construction sites are considered hazardous conditions. Strangely enough I am covering some of this very thing in an advanced business law course at university right now.

However, Obama is still a socialist, by his own admission. I can't understand why you are denying that, or why you would be attacking some guy on the street for asking a question that led to Obama admitting his socialist leaning. Who asked is irrelevant, Obama's answer is the issue.

[quote:3e2b78ol] You'll have to rip the money out of my ex-wife's cold fingers[/quote:3e2b78ol] LOL, well they may well do that, if she's working hard and doing well for herself.
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Postby *juggleblood* » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:54 am

I honestly just want to be able to put people to work insulating houses, saving people money and lessening the amount of fuel we use. The government can kiss my ass.

Try to argue with that.
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Postby Weasel » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:58 am

[quote="juggleblood":2h23ipmt]I honestly just want to be able to put people to work insulating houses, saving people money and lessening the amount of fuel we use. The government can kiss my ass.

Try to argue with that.[/quote:2h23ipmt]

LOL. That's fine, good for you, nothing wrong with that at all, but that is relevant how?

The sky is blue, except when it's not.

Try to argue with that.

I win.

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Postby *juggleblood* » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:06 am

I really don't feel like arguing anymore. So I will just say this to make you happy:

I believe Barack Obama is a Socialist!

ok?

now what if I admit that I think:

John McCain is a Fascist!

have I really illuminated the discussion any? or am I just stirring up fear by using labels that carry powerful and distracting connotations? God forbid anyone should vote for that scary socialist. Lets just forget that the government was socialised years ago and this guys policies aren't any more radical than Bill and Hillary.

I guess I did feel like arguing.
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Postby Weasel » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:11 am

[quote="juggleblood":3c7gkxmz]I believe Barack Obama is a Socialist!
ok?[/quote:3c7gkxmz]

LOL yup happy now. Have a good night.

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Postby Tap » Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:48 am

[url:odglr64c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfw8acB7TVk[/url:odglr64c]
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Postby Weasel » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:17 am

[url:1b2ai2fh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s[/url:1b2ai2fh]
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Postby jezer » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:22 am

I have to admit, that civilian national security force sounds weird... think it's all just hot air though.
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Postby Tap » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:24 am

[quote:20ac0idf]think it's all just hot air though.[/quote:20ac0idf]

Are you familiar with the term "cool-aid drinker"?
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Postby Weasel » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:16 am

Civilian Security Forces. That combined with Biden warning of a major international crisis within the first couple of months of Obama's rule, and that they're going to do 'something' that Americans are not going to like (hence the need for the security forces).. I find this all very troubling. Furthermore, this same sentiment is being hinted at by other prominent politicians, including Colin Powell, Madeline Albright, Australian PM Kevin Rudd, and predictions of impending doom are even coming from England and France.

Just what are they preparing us for?

Joe Biden's words:

[i:114j0vkw]“Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama ..Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. ..we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.

“There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision’,” Biden continued

But he’s gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, ‘Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? ..So I’m asking you now, I’m asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you’re going to have to reinforce us.”[/i:114j0vkw]

The ruling elite have plans for you and I, and they know we are not going to like it.

[i:114j0vkw]If[/i:114j0vkw] it's just fear-mongering, keep in mind that fear is the primary tool of civilian control. Ask any dictator.

Gird your loins indeed..
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Postby *juggleblood* » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:58 am

don't most advanced countries have interior forces? Personally, I'm not in favor of it. I like the way the national guard is set up already. But I don't see what the big deal is.

I don't see what the big deal is about Biden's quote is either. Would you really feel better about our foreign policy with hot head McCain and his know nothing sidekick in charge?

McCain - "We have to get out there and fight my friends! fight fight fight! I'm a maverick and I'm gonna fight!"

I'd rather have a guy who was cool, calm, and collected in charge.
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Postby Tap » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:02 pm

[quote:2jgdon1i]I'd rather have a guy who was cool, calm, and collected in charge[/quote:2jgdon1i]

You are not alone. So would these people.

[img:2jgdon1i]http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/c/cb/BillAyersMugshot.jpg[/img:2jgdon1i]
[img:2jgdon1i]http://www.fugly-bali.org/images/osama-bin-laden.jpg[/img:2jgdon1i]
[img:2jgdon1i]http://images.chron.com/blogs/txpotomac/jeremiah%20wright%206.jpg[/img:2jgdon1i]
[img:2jgdon1i]http://www.astrodomus.com/PortAstro/IMAGES/oriente%20ocidente/vladimir%20putin.gif[/img:2jgdon1i]
[img:2jgdon1i]http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/meast/08/03/iran.leader/story.ahmadinejad.jpg[/img:2jgdon1i]
[img:2jgdon1i]http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/religion/louis_farrakhan_GI22.jpg[/img:2jgdon1i]
[img:2jgdon1i]http://www.onlypolitics.org/images/chavez-hugo_2411.jpg[/img:2jgdon1i]

and last but certainly not least...[img:2jgdon1i]http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/static/gaetano/satan.jpg[/img:2jgdon1i]

Maybe you didn't see the news where Osama stated we could go into Pakistan and get Obama since they weren't co-operating. Then again, if you didn't get a chance to even know that....do you live in Australia by chance?



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Postby *juggleblood* » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:18 pm

if mccain knew osama's location in pakistan i doubt he would hesitate to send some cruise missiles his way. If I remember correctly we sent 40 of em when we thought we knew where saddam was. I think most American's would support such a decision.
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