Warrior Skills

[Malison]

Yeah flail's great, it doesn't hit supplicants, only hits mobs that are engaged with your group unless none are, and does 2-3x the damage of a normal attack. It's a decent option for someone who doesn't have frostbolt...or destruction, cry of the avatars, flame strike, strike, or circle stab.

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[quote:3gpzt97y]Yeah flail's great ... and does 2-3x the damage of a normal attack.[/quote:3gpzt97y]

Interesting, I wonder where you got this idea. From my experience, it didn't do...quite so well. Maybe it's worth testing again.

[13]

Flail has never been too appealing to me dmg-wise, broadside can hit hard
though, and you can massive crit with it.

[12345]

Flail has specific uses in my arsenal, mostly because its the only area attack I have. It makes the mermaid into an easy solo, compared to sure fire death. Other than that, I have to be pretty desperate to attempt it.

[alias]

Sorry been in school last couple of days.. if you really think Valor is the best damage weapon in game maybe u need to do a little more research.

let the mages blast the clerics heal and of course the warriors Whine.


Alias

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Yes I was wrong about the Valor being highest. Especially if you sharpen a 2-handed weapon, it can get to be a bit better than Valor.

I still don't like flail much. From what I can see, it doesn't work as the help describes. It never does as much damage as normal attacks with the weapon - the weapon damage is always halved. Broadside is even less damage than flail, in addition to limited to a smaller assortment of weapons and a smaller range of targets who are affected. Unless you get that double flail or the critical hit, it's not doing much damage at all.

[Weasel]

..and flail is dangerous in the wrong hands.. seen it cause a CF more than once..

[13]

Well these skills need to be tweaked a little maybe then? Admins..what ya tink?

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It's hard for me to tell, but I suspect that flail doesn't get the bonuses from Weapon Damage added either. It's too bad that weapon damage gear is so rare, I only know of the drachma relic and the avatar forge for 50 mils coins.

Anyone want to toss me a set of Devilskins for testing? They aren't personal are they?

[mahkra]

Isn't flail still more damage than a kick or bash?

[Leaf]

Can you sharpen a valor?

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As long as you have +15 or so damage on your 'score', Flail should be just more than a kick.


Yes you can sharpen Valor, and hope it doesn't break on you. Two handed weapons get more benefit from sharpen though.

[Leaf]

Has any1 ever broken their valor? Or any other swords?

[Malison]

Tested out damage with assist and flail based on xp gain for each during a desert/palace run. Flail consistently gave 1.5-2x the xp of the single hit from assisting.
One-attack xp gains: [984, 1148, 1271, 1517, 1470, 1280, 1218, 1353, 861]
Flail xp gains: [1968, 1722, 1927, 2337, 2100, 2120, 2268, 2255, 1640]

That's where I got the twice as much damage idea.

[Atwell]

Indeed, weapon damage does not add to flail.

I have never heard of someone breaking a valor sword. I broke a few shop swords with sharpen.