Happy Times in Iran

[Medios]

So eating pork makes you a cannibal? I really thought pork was considered bad because it is easier to get sick from. Back in the old times without refridgerators meat will spoil very easily.

I never said that any system is perfect. Free society was formed long before America come into existence. What we really need to do is all get together and figure out the real free system. One where politicians cannot remove freedoms for their own personal gains. Everyone should know that the best and worst societies were monarchies. Freedom of speech is a good start.

[Hades]

America has it's faults like many countries but we are don't plan on wiping another country off the Map (Iran vs Israel). We don't ban camera's and have our dead lying in the street and lie to the people that it's that way everwhere on the planet(North Korea). We don't deny the existence of the Holocaust and refuse to teach it in our schools (as not to offend Muslim's0
though granted I wouldn't be suprised if we didn't follow suit). We don't harbor terrorist although we allow them to freely enter out country and await for them to attack. We do have Hillary,Gore,Obama and Kerry and like-minded individuals that have sold out and would sell out their own children in order to underline our great country. Communism/Fascism is on
the rise and bluntly no one is going to do a damn thing about it. Which Popa on other thread was mentioning, these things cannot and will not be stopped. It is pre-ordained. Finally, we need someone like this guy to step forward and run things awhile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sgtslaughter.jpg

[rail]

I played sloth2, and occasionally checks this place out. I usually just keeps to myself, but this particular posting infuriated me so much, not only because it is a brainless regurtitation of the western propaganda but also because i find the author such a hypocrite.

[quote="Medios":2arpmsra]Would anyone here consider Iran to be a "free" country? Does Iran kill people for speaking out against the govt? Does Iran treat its women like dirt? Does Iran give a damn about the rest of the world?
[/quote:2arpmsra]

Have you ever breathed a minute of Iranian air? I have. 25 years before i ventured to the east for business. So what give you the idea to say the above? Idiot's Guide to Iran? If you dont know, STFU.

[quote="Medios":2arpmsra]Exactly how do you equate British soldiers patrolling Iraqi waters to stop the flow of weapons into Iraq as the same thing as Iran sending spies into Iraq to start sectarian violence. [/quote:2arpmsra]

Now, coming from someone who's been potraying himself as an opponent of govt wiping citizen's ass, i find it funny that you now find it OK to be the enforcer of someone else's country. To illegally occupy a foreign land, and to impose *what you think is right* on other citizens. These soldiers are NOT in their country, NOT welcomed, anything else you might have heard about locals welcoming their *peacekeeping role* is a lie.

[quote="Medios":2arpmsra]
We are the only country standing up for the rights of everyone in the world. [/quote:2arpmsra]

Feeling proud aren't we? Did they tell you the ppl whose right you supposed stood up for, didnt asked nor want you in the first place? Its funny how things get spun around to console one's conscience.

[Hades]

Yet, some asswipe wants to nuke his neighbor. Terrorize his neighbors. And the people who may or may not want us there to help can't say a damn thing for fear of being killed along with their family. If you leave a madman alone with a gun, eventually he's gonna set his sights on you..it's best to put down a rabid dog whilst you can. No I haven't ever been to Iran. Why would I want to? I'm white,American and Christian. It's sort of like Mexico except of not drinking the water, I've heard you don't want to breathe it's air.

peace

[Mike]

I cant say i know everything about US and Iran but for me its so obvisious that all the stuff we discussing coming from mass media and govt propaganda. I can see the same situation like it was in Iraq: we hear Iraq have mass destruction weapon, dont let em use it against us or our friends, send military forces there and bring peace and democracy there. Is there any democracy in Iraq now? I think ppl in Iraq live much worse now than it was before.
All the stuff comes from oil, gas and authority needs in that region. Plz correct me if i wrong but did Iran start denying Israel and holocoust just a year ago? Why US start bringing it to the first place just now? Do some of you really think that wearing rug or sensoring tv and papers are bad enough to start war? Im not saying that Iran is going good way developing nuclear weapon and saying (not doing) shit about Israel, nor im saying anyone have rights to decide what is good for his neighbour or opponent.

[13]

Rail was who on Sloth2?

[Aleksey]

To Hades:
And USA not terrorizing poor old Fidel?:) Dont remember who told about assosinaions on Ronald but on Fidel was more than 100s
Was no holocoust of indian peoples, how many tribes survived?
All existent nations in modern map swept some one in thair past, exept china, thay was happy inside own country with own religion.
Russia for example ended complitly whole huge Hazars kaganat.
USA not helping to terrorists? kiding?
Albanian brigades was at second place in world terrorists list, used them(armed, financed) during henoside of Ugoslavian people. After that thay surprisingly was removed from list at all. During russian invasion in Afghanistan USA financed and armed Alkaida ( dont say its not terrorist organisation, its surprisingly in first place in list now). And indirect involment: where do you think man in Iraq will go to feed own family if Peace keeping forces based around oil wells, pipes, and port. Doubt that many working places left, more easy get gun stop bus take hostages, get peoples money or join some organisation where paid money for shooting. Israel's MASSAD cruising all ower world and killing terrorist all his family and relatives(its massad rule kill terrorist and all his relatives) not pissing all in region? And if thay mistaken?
Not taking no ones part btw, for russia for example thise situation realy good: better oil prices, terrorist organisation sending less money for terrorist in our problematic regions, bamboo growing:D

To Mike: Is too many ways preserve food without fridge
1 smoke
2 drie
3 salt
4 pepper (all asian countries using that method)
5 Shy to say but in Russian villages yet people digging huge hole,deeper land freezing point, at winter puting ice inside, covering that hole tight, and all year trough using as a fridge, cos some one dont have money buy fridge, other dont have electricity, few cant afford pay for electricity in country which getting huge profit from oil and gas prices. Horrible but .....

[13]

Aleksey is and has always been one of my favorite people from the land of Sloth. His English may be poor but he's smart as a tack and always comes correct.

[brady]

There are much more appropriate forums for these debates. Jesus, lighten the flock up.

[brady]

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEno ... 6720070405

Porn swap sparks defense leak furore. Medios demands his Aegis be returned.

[Medios]

Hogs are filthy animals. They lay in shit all day and root around in it. I am having a hard time thinking of too many animals that act this way.

I will apologize right now for several things that I have no part in. Since I was not alive and had nothing to do with any of this im glad the blame lies on me. It is obvious that America is to blame for everything, you guys have decided that already.

Killing Indians. (My time machine took me back there to dispatch them)
Black Slavery. (It sure was nice of Africa to sell their own people)
Civil War (If only the south would have won, we would not have this huge government telling us what to do in seperate states)
WW1 (We should have let Persia run over europe before we got involved)
WW2 (We should have allowed Germany to destroy europe before we got involved)
Haulocaust? Hell it never happened remember.
Vietnam (again were meddling, it sure was cool when they slaughtered 1,000,000 people in cambodia, again all our fault.
Korea - Down with south korea, we should let the north kill them all, worthless southerners.
Afghanistan - Russia was really doing the right thing here. Seems to me they were doing the same thing that America is doing now, but you defend it.
Operation Desert Storm - Again why do we give a damn about Kuwait. We would be better served to let Saddam take over the country, then we could have had both countries to ourselves. I guess it was really cool when Hussein murdered the Kurds, they deserved it.
War on Terror? - Of course we **** up by training Afghanistan to fight against Russia using terror methods. I realize that its coming back to bite us in the ass. I guess we should just lay down and let them kill us. Those 3000 people in the world trade center mean nothing.

While we talk about Mossad, does anyone remember when terrorists took some Israeli olympians hostage? That was a fine time in history. I am sure it was justified since those atheletes control foreign poliicy.

You guys have proven to me that every country in the world other than America is doing the right things. America is too blame for everything in history. I just have to wonder why all the people in the world want to come here. I guess misery loves company.

Its apparent that your all America Haters. I do not hate anyone. I never said I hate Iran or any other country. I have never killed anyone for money nor has anyone that I personally know. Its good to know that you guys think so highly of me. I get the point. I won't bring it up anymore.

Does anyone remember a post that I wrote called Politicians can rot in hell. Im guessing that the answer is no since you think I condone these actions you state. I will lay down and die now.

[Popa]

oh my God??? You kill Medios!!!!!!!!!!!!...................


You BASTARDS!!!!

Thought i would inject some humor.

Lets all just go kill silly mobs on sloth and forget about the "real" world since its so F'd up anyhow.

[Avatar]

Just to clarify, I have a friend who is a devout and educated Muslim. He explained his opinion that the restriction from pork was based on ancient observations about eating pork. They noticed that people became sick after eating pork, and based the restriction on this perception. The explanation is that historically they didn't realize that pork had to be cooked at a high temperature to kill off the larvae of the trichina worm.

I understand now that he probably learned this theory from "The Guide for the Perplexed", written by Maimonides in the 12th century.

As for the rest of the discussion, I agree that Aleksey always has very wise contributions. It's worth the effort to try to understand his posts.

For my own input, I can only stress that it's dangerous to speak in extreme generalities. If you say "politicians should go to hell", you run a risk of offending the people you're trying to communicate with. Not all politicians are evil. I have family members who have ran for public office, and I have close friends who consider running when they disagree with current events. Similarly, if you dismiss or denigrate democrats or republicans or Iranians or whatever, you are painting with a very wide brush. Is there noone in Iraq who is happier since Saddam was removed from power? There were death squads in Iraq long before the US arrived, remember. Saddam was not a benevolent ruler to people outside his faction. I know for a fact that utilities there are in better condition now. A higher percentage of the population has access to electricity and clean water than before March 2003. It would be silly to think that all Iraqis hate the US.

We still station US troops in South Korea. I don't personally agree with having US troops stationed in Iraq for the next 30 years, but that was my prediction when we invaded. I hope I'm wrong.

[Popa]

Pork back in the day was considered unclean due to the nature they wallowed around in their crap and ate just about anything. So like Avatar stated the people didnt know about cooking it or the wurms or bactierial organsisms that inhabit pigs
How ever one think i'd like to mention. On a biblical basis that information was written in the Book of Leviticus which was written before the 12th century. .Its not just Muslums that dont eat pork. Jewish, to this day, still dont eat pork because of the book of Levitcus.
the specific chapters are Leviticus 9:1-8
reasons for the Lord commanding them not to eat was because he knew they were not good for Human consumption.

Regardless of religeous beleif , there are reasons that were known a long time ago that certain things were not good for consumption.