Unholy Strength

[Maive]

I would like to hear from those who have a 'Unholy Strength' spell without a 'Strength' spell and wheather they use it or not.

[Maive]

A 40 mage spell 'Strength' gives +4 Str.
A 24 avatar spell 'Vigor' gives +5 Str.

Currently,
A 40 necro spell 'Unholy Strength' gives +2 Str and -1 Con.
A 24 avatar spell 'Demonic Strength' gives +3 Str and -1 Con.

Both give less Str and come at a price of Con.

I think that removing Con penalty or increasing Str would be more reasonable.

Could this spell be reconsidered? Otherwise it is mostly a useless spell.

[12345]

Necro is considered to be the single most overpowered class in the mud. Asking them to increase it's power even more is very likely to result in disappointment.

[Guinex]

To be honest i don't even see the point of having the spell. Orange potions give +3 str.

[12345]

Yeah, then we can boost up cleric damage spells so they're on parr with mages. Necros deal with death and decay. They get power from undead spirits and the rotting remains of the living. There's lots of places in the game where a skill in one class is stronger than a similar skill in another class.

And I spend a fair amount on orange potions myself because I have neither spell. There have been many times I would have preferred a nice free spell to cast so I could avoid a run to town or to the bank. Such is life. I had other priorities when I created the char.

[Weasel]

dirty necrophiliacs

[Leaf]

I had to click the Yes, because when ur little that +2 str helps more then
a con.

Also doesn't Bard have Str spell also ?

[Vixn]

according to 'class abilities' bard can learn strength at 17 level.
my questions are: does bard's strength give +4 point to you at 40 level?and/or could bard learn vigor at 24av?

[Alberich]

strength is strength - it's the same spell, so yeah

vigor is av version of str, same applies