What's up with Retreat?

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What's up with Retreat?

Postby Gorka » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:45 pm

I've died 3 times the past 2 days, trying to retreat on the vertical axis after a skill (strike or a backstab). It's almost like the game thinks that the direction I am retreating in does not exist.

Works fine if I retreat upwards but only if I cast a spell, will have an issue if I retreat after a skill.
Works fine if the direction was not upwards.

Is there something in retreat regarding skills and directions?

The other potential thing is my banshee is wailing in the room I am retreating too... could this cause the issue?

I swear there is something going on, it's normal to fail a retreat... but 10+ attempts in a row not so normal... It's just started happening the past 2 days as I have started stabbing and striking from a room on the vertical axis. I'm pretty sure I could replicate the behaviour.

Underground Rapids
The raging river crashes against the side walls of the underground
cavern, forcing it southward down its devastating path. The echos of the
river are amplified by the small, enclosed tunnel. There is an opening
leading upward, with a spiral stone stairway carved from the tunnel walls.
Exits: South West Up
(Brilliant Red Aura) A rat-like beast lumbers around in search of food.
A rat-like beast is covered in sticky webs!
A rat-like beast remembers you, and ATTACKS!
You can taste the impending victory!
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's beat.
You sneak through the shadows.

<1154hp 72ma 77mv 7243541805xp -9.6ac 34%>
You land a powerful strike into a rat-like beast's side.
retreat u;@@

<1154hp 72ma 77mv 7243556565xp -9.6ac 31%>
With a mighty effort, you shake off your exhaustion!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<1157hp 73ma 63mv 7243556565xp -9.6ac 31%>

<1157hp 73ma 63mv 7243556565xp -9.6ac 31%>
Impossible to use this so soon after a successful second wind!!!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<1159hp 74ma 64mv 7243556565xp -9.6ac 31%>

<1159hp 74ma 64mv 7243556565xp -9.6ac 31%>
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's beat.
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's pierce.
You are brutally massacred by a rat-like beast's pierce.
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's pierce.
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's hit.
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's hit.
You deal a massive blow to one of a rat-like beast's vital organs.
You viciously massacre a rat-like beast with your hit.
You brutally massacre a rat-like beast with your hit.
A rat-like beast leaps onto your back and bites viciously at your body!
Impossible to use this so soon after a successful second wind!!!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<467hp 75ma 65mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

<467hp 75ma 65mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>
Impossible to use this so soon after a successful second wind!!!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<467hp 75ma 65mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

<470hp 75ma 67mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

Impossible to use this so soon after a successful second wind!!!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<470hp 75ma 67mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

<470hp 75ma 67mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>
Sadly, your effort is not good enough!
@@
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<472hp 76ma 61mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

<472hp 76ma 61mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>
With a mighty effort, you shake off your exhaustion!
With a mighty effort, you shake off your exhaustion!

<472hp 76ma 31mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<475hp 77ma 32mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

<475hp 77ma 32mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>
Impossible to use this so soon after a successful second wind!!!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<475hp 77ma 32mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

<475hp 77ma 32mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>
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Impossible to use this so soon after a successful second wind!!!
PANIC! You couldn't escape!
retreat u;@@

<478hp 78ma 33mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>

<478hp 78ma 33mv 7243561429xp -9.6ac 28%>
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You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's beat.
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's pierce.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You are brutally massacred by a rat-like beast's pierce.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You are viciously massacred by a rat-like beast's pierce.
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING that much!
You have been KILLED!!
Gimme a G! Gimme a ORKA!
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Re: What's up with Retreat?

Postby Gorka » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:37 pm

An update... I can replicate the behavior, also can confirm it only happens retreating up... unless the banshee is involved in the issue somehow.
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Re: What's up with Retreat?

Postby *teker* » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:25 pm

Retreat hasn't been modified AFAIK so you're seeing something that has been there for a while. Retreat in the upward direction is deemed more difficult that other directions. Builders can also set flags on rooms or exits that make retreating more difficult. Flee works the same way. I would suggest having fly up and see if it makes a difference.
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Re: What's up with Retreat?

Postby Gorka » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:10 pm

Thanks Teker, that explains it. I have perm fly in my blast mode, but not in my strike or stab modes.
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Re: What's up with Retreat?

Postby Josiah » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:51 pm

Definitely fly. Definitely not a recent change.

For some reason, fleeing or retreating up always fails if you aren't flying. Just a quirk of the game. Don't matter if its thin air above you, or a stairway.

If you are in the habit of attempting to flee like a pansy, and failing... consider a trigger to shapeshift into a tree if you fail a lot of flees in a row.

(Yes I do have a similar a trigger, and yes, it is called PANSY).
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Re: What's up with Retreat?

Postby Teron » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:56 pm

Nice idea about the trigger. I can remember at least a few times I died to several failed flees.
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