Banshees - what are banshees good for

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Postby *juggleblood* » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:15 pm

er...how come i don't have an edit button to edit last msg...
I fixed the wail thing again, was a silly bug. Thanks for testing it. The new proc only fires when the master is in combat. I only increased banshee hp and hit. Didn't touch its damage because it was already higher than wraith.
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Postby Mike » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:13 am

Do you think it is possible to add one attack to banshees?
Cause right now, I can have 3 wraiths, each have 3 attacks, this gives me 9 attacks per round. With levels I'm now, I can have only one banshee and one wraith, and this gives me only 6 attacks per round. Necro main power is in his pets melee damage. So... When I was 40 prime I could do more damage when I got 3x40. If you say banshees have more dam, it is still less then 3 wraithes. So when I have controll horde skill I will have pets with 8 attacks per round but since my levels grew up of course this is something I should have :)
So I would love to see banshees more powerfull from what they are now, would be nice to add a normall attack, or at least some mellee skill, like directed flail or some powerfull kick :)
I'm whining here, cause right now, there is a huge gap in pets powers between 1x40 and 4x40+11.
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Postby Vixn » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:00 pm

[quote="Mike":20w8odgc]I'm whining here, cause right now, there is a huge gap in pets powers between 1x40 and 4x40+11.[/quote:20w8odgc]

You're whining here because you whine everywhere, you dirty necros.
Go, play warrior and you'll see how hard it is to lie still being mortally wounded somewhere in the lyme city.
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Postby Mike » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:36 pm

We have Weasel to whine about warrirors here :)
I dont need to double him. I will whine about necroses been weak... My warriror is ok, but my necros is not!
Give all powers to necroses! :P
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Postby 13 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:59 pm

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Postby Tap » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:35 pm

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Postby *juggleblood* » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:56 pm

I was wrong again when I said that Banshee's had more dam than wraiths. It was actually lower. I was going off the documentation I had, rather than looking at wut was on the mob. I raised it back up to where it's sposed to be. I think the question of whether 2 banshees or 3 wraiths are more effective will come down to mob ac.

Thx for the inputs.
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Postby Tap » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:12 pm

Shouldn't banshee's be better than wraiths overall? Not saying a significant boost but once one reached that level to summon banshee, wraith should take a backseat. You wouldn't have a 5x40 wasting his time on a small juju when Bokor was such an obvious alternative( and yes, he/she doesn't really have a choice...just making the case). Otherwise, thanks for tinkering and doing the adjustment. Now if somene would start working on bards.....
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Postby Mike » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:35 am

Thanks for banshees. But i still belive one attack would be nice, cause before i will have 2 banshees, theres a lot of levels. So either I have to use 3 wraith or one banshee and wraith. First choise is much more effective, second one is weak. Of course ac and hitpoints are different on wraith and banshee, but we are talking about steps forward in necro progress when he levels. So you are giving more ac, but lower dam and amount of pets. So as i said in previous post, main power is dam :)

For the bards it would be cool to have a song that affects spell and heal bonuses, or two different songs. Make it 20-30 lvl song. Add extra to offensive/heal spells above current bonus. So if I have cap 90 and a bard singing this song i will be able to deal 90+extra. To decide what extra should be use charisma. Prime bards will have it more, quad will add just small bonus. To make it easy put it as this = spelldam(heal) + charisma bard have. But it should not raise a cap, it should adds to what player have.
Like: frostbolt deals 200 dam, i have 70 spelldam bonus eq on me (90 cap), bard with carisma 10 sings a song, i will deal 280 dam to mob.
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Postby *juggleblood* » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:38 am

banshee has better hitroll, dam, and hitpoints than wraith. Also the procs can be quite useful. You can choose to use them or not, but I don't see me getting permission to give them another attack. It'd probably be easier to get permission to nerf wraiths.
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Postby Widow » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:19 pm

Don't even JOKE about that! :shock:
Necros are the life of the Undead party.
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Postby Vixn » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:23 pm

[quote="juggleblood":2gg7avte]banshee has better hitroll, dam, and hitpoints than wraith. Also the procs can be quite useful. You can choose to use them or not, but I don't see me getting permission to give them another attack. It'd probably be easier to get permission to nerf wraiths.[/quote:2gg7avte]

BRILLIANT!!

My ba/dr has more mana/maregen than my ma/cl.
But my ma/cl has more ac/attacks than my ba/dr.

That's why I'm very interesting where would I come with this 'easier-to-get-permission' way of thinking. Probably once I'll get more spell_dam on my bard and more hp on my mage.

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Umm..what was the question again?
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Postby Mike » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:37 pm

[quote="juggleblood":2gqtfvpp]banshee has better hitroll, dam, and hitpoints than wraith.[/quote:2gqtfvpp]

2 wraiths vs 2 banshee
Out of 7 rounds:
2 wraiths missed totaly 1
2 banshees missed totaly 12

all 4 of them quaffed orange and got unholy aura up.
Havent tested dam, cause Kida was singing gods of war.
But still its only 2 banshees compared to 3 wraith.

btw, Juju misses a lot too, so would like to see it reviseted as well.

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Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith misses a wandering merchant with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A Ju-Ju Zombie misses a wandering merchant with its hit.
A Ju-Ju Zombie massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its hit.
A wandering merchant misses Kida with her beat.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres a wraith with her slice.
A wandering merchant misses a banshee with her hit.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres Kida with her slice.
A Ju-Ju Zombie utters the words, 'xafe ay saui' (word of pain)
A wandering merchant stumbles as a Ju-Ju Zombie's power word subdues her.
A wandering merchant utters the words, 'yufzbarr' (fireball)
A wandering merchant smirks as her fireball explodes into the face of Kida.
A wandering merchant kicks Kida in solar plexus, Kida is rendered breathless.

<135hp 364ma 90mv +8 storm>
Kida looks at a wandering merchant.

<135hp 365ma 91mv +8 storm>
cast 'restoration' kim
Ok.
The cleansing fires of healing fill your body!

<336hp 304ma 91mv +8 storm>
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A Ju-Ju Zombie brutally massacres a wandering merchant with its hit.
A Ju-Ju Zombie misses a wandering merchant with its hit.
A wandering merchant brutally massacres Kida with her beat.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres a wraith with her slice.
A wandering merchant brutally massacres a banshee with her hit.
A wandering merchant brutally massacres Kida with her slice.
A Ju-Ju Zombie utters the words, 'xzatunso' (weaken)
A wandering merchant utters the words, 'yufzbarr' (fireball)
You resist a bit of the damage...
You are enveloped in flames from a fireball sent by a wandering merchant - OUCH.
A wandering merchant wipes her boots in the face of Kida.

<308hp 305ma 92mv +8 storm>
order undead kill merc

<308hp 308ma 93mv +8 storm>
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her hit.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A Ju-Ju Zombie massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its hit.
A Ju-Ju Zombie brutally massacres a wandering merchant with its hit.
A wandering merchant misses Kida with her beat.
You are brutally massacred by a wandering merchant's slice.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres a wraith with her hit.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres Kida with her slice.
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A Ju-Ju Zombie utters the words, 'oculoghfjqhuai' (destruction)
A wandering merchant looks shocked as an arcane gesture blasts a piece of her body away.
A wandering merchant utters the words, 'oculowai buie' (demon bind)
Kida is suddenly entwined with an ethereal darkness!
A wandering merchant wipes her boots in the face of Kida.

<253hp 309ma 93mv +8 storm>
Kida stops playing.
Kida utters the words, 'candusghafahuai' (restoration)
The cleansing fires of healing fill your body!

<473hp 311ma 94mv +8 storm>
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A Ju-Ju Zombie misses a wandering merchant with its hit.
A Ju-Ju Zombie brutally massacres a wandering merchant with its hit.
A wandering merchant misses Kida with her beat.
You are brutally massacred by a wandering merchant's slice.
A wandering merchant misses a wraith with her hit.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres Kida with her slice.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A Ju-Ju Zombie utters the words, 'xafe ay saui' (word of pain)
A wandering merchant stumbles as a Ju-Ju Zombie's power word subdues her.
A wandering merchant utters the words, 'yufzbarr' (fireball)
You resist a bit of the damage...
You are enveloped in flames from a fireball sent by a wandering merchant - OUCH.
A wandering merchant wipes her boots in the face of Kida.

<403hp 312ma 95mv +8 storm>
Kida utters the words, 'candusghafahuai' (restoration)
Kida briefly glows with a blinding light!

<403hp 313ma 95mv +8 storm>
TICK IN 15 SECONDS.
Kida looks at a wandering merchant.

<404hp 316ma 96mv +8 storm>
Kida utters the words, 'oculoghfjqhuai' (destruction)

<404hp 316ma 96mv +8 storm>
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You slash a wandering merchant extremely hard.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her hit.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A Ju-Ju Zombie brutally massacres a wandering merchant with its hit.
A Ju-Ju Zombie misses a wandering merchant with its hit.
A wandering merchant misses Kida with her beat.
You are brutally massacred by a wandering merchant's slice.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres a wraith with her hit.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres Kida with her slice.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A Ju-Ju Zombie utters the words, 'oculoghfjqhuai' (destruction)
A wandering merchant looks shocked as an arcane gesture blasts a piece of her body away.
A wandering merchant utters the words, 'yufzbarr' (fireball)
You resist a bit of the damage...
You are enveloped in flames from a fireball sent by a wandering merchant - OUCH.
A wandering merchant kicks Kida in solar plexus, Kida is rendered breathless.

<327hp 317ma 97mv +8 storm>
Kida looks at a wandering merchant.

<327hp 318ma 97mv +8 storm>
Kida utters the words, 'oculoghfjqhuai' (destruction)
A wandering merchant looks shocked as an arcane gesture blasts a piece of her body away.

<327hp 318ma 97mv +8 storm>
grouptell hyinya kakaya to
You grouptell: 'hyinya kakaya to'

<327hp 320ma 98mv +8 storm>
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A Ju-Ju Zombie massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its hit.
A Ju-Ju Zombie massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its hit.
A wandering merchant misses Kida with her beat.
A wandering merchant misses you with her slice.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres a wraith with her hit.
A wraith has been banished to the astral plane!
Everything a wraith was carrying suddenly drops to the ground.
A wraith stops following you.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres Kida with her slice.
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A Ju-Ju Zombie utters the words, 'abrawg ay hpz ablgg' (arms of the abyss)
Shadowy tentacles from the abyss entangle a wandering merchant!
A wandering merchant utters the words, 'yufzbarr' (fireball)
You resist a bit of the damage...
You are enveloped in flames from a fireball sent by a wandering merchant - OUCH.
A wandering merchant kicks Kida in solar plexus, Kida is rendered breathless.

<310hp 321ma 98mv +8 storm>
cast 'destr'
Ok.
A piece of a wandering merchant is blasted away.

<310hp 302ma 99mv +8 storm>
Kida utters the words, 'oculoghfjqhuai' (destruction)
A wandering merchant looks shocked as an arcane gesture blasts a piece of her body away.

<310hp 303ma 99mv +8 storm>
cast 'destr'
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You slash a wandering merchant extremely hard.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its rake.
A wraith massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with its claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her hit.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her hit.
A banshee misses a wandering merchant with her claw.
A banshee massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her claw.
A Ju-Ju Zombie misses a wandering merchant with its hit.
A Ju-Ju Zombie brutally massacres a wandering merchant with its hit.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres Kida with her beat.
A wandering merchant misses you with her slice.
A wandering merchant misses a banshee with her hit.
A wandering merchant viciously massacres Kida with her slice.
Kida massacres a wandering merchant to small fragments with her cleave.
You massacre a wandering merchant to small fragments with your slash.
A Ju-Ju Zombie utters the words, 'zawsufuq hajqp' (vampiric touch)
A Ju-Ju Zombie shivers with delight as it reaches out its hand and touches a wandering merchant, draining her life essence and causing her to convulse.
A wandering merchant utters the words, 'yufzbarr' (fireball)
A wandering merchant smirks as her fireball explodes into the face of Kida.
A wandering merchant makes a nice ballet step which plants a foot a mile above Kida's head.


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