The New Changes To Druid

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Postby jezer » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:46 am

Turn in the trail
The sheer rock walls of the mountain rise up to the east and north blocking
the way in those directions. A sharp turn in the trail leads south, down
into a ravine. Westward a steep path winds through the mountains.
Exits: South West
Bazilus is lying here, dead.
You sense a hidden life form in the room.

<41hp 704ma 7mv 4.5ac -3al 342992249xp +32mr>
rr bazilus
A boulder from the south slams you to the ground!
You are mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.

<-8hp 703ma 9mv 1.0ac -3al 342992249xp +48mr>
You are dead! Sorry...
You have been KILLED!!


I still haven't tried sparrow yet, but ferret is a piece of rubbish. However upon doing help shapeshift I see all shift forms below tree are immune to aggro... Hopefully one of these forms can survive at least one room proc.

Oh and BTW, I might have relo now, but I still don't know 75% of areas all that well, so if you corpse while I am trying to get you... please understand in advance, I'll be doing my best, and if that proves not to be good enough, I'm sorry.
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Postby Mosaix » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:58 am

First of all I am always grateful when from time to time I need a rescue by a ferret style individual.

However, it is an appropriate change. A 40hp tiny animal should not be immune to what is going on around it. Boulders, darts, lightning, flames etc.

I guess it makes the game more challenging/interesting.
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Postby Stryx » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:30 am

Are we going back to realism again, in this fantasy game?
I can understand ferrets being hurt by element rooms, i.e. fire/cold/acid rooms, but you try throwing a missile at a ferret.

Due to the size of a ferret, shouldnt it have pretty decent DEX, like 25 or something, making it a lot less likely to be hit. I guess ferret heading for the scrapheap along with most of the other forms.

As for making the game more interesting/challenging, shapeshift piasa works pretty well on cr's.
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Postby Mosaix » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:53 am

Then request to make ferret ethereal and enjoy the fantasy.
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Postby Weasel » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:20 pm

Can I be perma-ethereal too? I'm ferret's cousin after all. :D
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Postby Mosaix » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:55 pm

Weasels now get perm wraithform :) !
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Postby Medios » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:07 pm

Chrissy helped me kill some raid mobs the other day and I noticed she did not receive any honor for the kills. She was shifted and I was tanking. I received honor and she did not.
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Postby Weasel » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:17 pm

[quote="Mosaix":3rpurb5i]Weasels now get perm wraithform :) ![/quote:3rpurb5i]
awesome!
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Postby jezer » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:52 pm

To Medios...

Shiv was showing me the elementals in drexel the other night, and I complained that I only got 1 honor point out of 34 for killing them. He said it sounded like a bug and HE and DAVE would be looking at it... So DAVE will fix it soon :twisted:

To Weasel...

If you really want to be like your cousins... make his hp's 35 and let him run off to tank desert in his esteemed -12ac.

As for CR's/Non Aggro...

It's a shame ferret is now so crunchy... but at least in this case we do have alternatives! I've decided in the future unless I know the area and mob/room procs I'll probably go in as tarantula, as it is my most powerful form that I can nearly maintain (mana wise)... if I get aggro'ed and have to recall... well you'll be out of luck.

Although I do like Stryx's idea of a bit of rationalisation... what chance does a ferret or bird have of being hit by lightning? And from my experience as a small kid chucking stones at animals :twisted: I'd say a few of them are good at dodging boulders too... like birds for example... Those things are so hard to hit with stones... :twisted:

I used to have the perception that I could explore the world safely in ferret... I realise this is stupid now, half my deaths are attributed to being in ferret form these days. I'll probably learn a lot more being aggro'ed anyway.
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Postby jezer » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:06 pm

Hmm, I gotta a new form Suggestion to combat some of the problems...

shapeshift kangaroo

Skills:

Jumping in front of cars.
Crapping all over the ground.
Running blindly into fences.

But then again, too much in common with weasel form! :twisted:
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Postby Weasel » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:01 pm

[quote="jezer":nedqdax0]Hmm, I gotta a new form Suggestion to combat some of the problems...

shapeshift kangaroo

Skills:

Jumping in front of cars.
Crapping all over the ground.
Running blindly into fences.

But then again, too much in common with weasel form! :twisted:[/quote:nedqdax0]

That's a lie!
..when I run into fences, I have my eyes wide open. usually.
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Postby jezer » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:42 pm

Judge shape shifted me into two new forms last night... One of wish crashed the mud I think... heh

They were still experimental... but probably the one most worth mentioning was armadillo which would have -6ac and 2 attacks on VK. It had 300hp. Also he said the form should hit like a player who has a holy sword.

This would be extremely welcome in those completely crap early years... which I am still trying to forget. I think armadillo has the dig command.

The other form was about half the size, 150hp and had fly and dark sight If I recall correctly. Avatar forms are pretty cool, but I think increasing the lower forms will actually see more druid primes, as druids are among the most painfully slow starters.
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Postby *juggleblood* » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:03 pm

awesome, being a noob druid prime is tha worst
Talk to the clown.
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Postby Roadrunr » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:18 pm

[quote="jezer":354kxphr]Judge shape shifted me into two new forms last night... One of wish crashed the mud I think... heh

They were still experimental... but probably the one most worth mentioning was armadillo which would have -6ac and 2 attacks on VK. It had 300hp. Also he said the form should hit like a player who has a holy sword.

This would be extremely welcome in those completely crap early years... which I am still trying to forget. I think armadillo has the dig command.

The other form was about half the size, 150hp and had fly and dark sight If I recall correctly. Avatar forms are pretty cool, but I think increasing the lower forms will actually see more druid primes, as druids are among the most painfully slow starters.[/quote:354kxphr]

druids may start painfully slow but they end very well, no need for druids to have a cakewalk from level one...no one else does...
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Postby Widow » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:28 pm

Actually - I started a thief/mage and ... frankly it's been pretty easy on VK - all things considered.
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